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Hello,
 I'm trying to track the movements of my great-great-great-grandmother Matilda Jane Hume and her father James Hume.
What I know so far.
James immigrated to Tasmania (we have since discovered it arrived in NSW not tasmania)on 08 October 1837 aboard the "Andromache" from the UK with his then wife, Margaret Hume ( no children).
 I am unsure of what happened to Margaret Hume, but I did find a Margaret Hume returning from Tasmania to London in 1846.
In 20 November 1844 he married Hannah Malley ( haven't found where she immigrated from yet)
They had two children, possibly three .
The two I know of are:
*Matilda Jane Hume b.15 May 1847
*James Hume (junior) b. 12 June 1850 and passed away in 17 feb 1852.

Hannah passed away in 21 April 1853 (haven't sited a death certificate but there was another entry of a Hannah Humes dying in Tasmania in 1851 age 36, Hannah was apparently born in 05 Jan 1816 which would put her at age 35/36 when she passed away so this is plausible) (* we have since found a Hannah Hume passing away in NSW in April 1853)

After Hannah passed away it has been told that James could not raise Matilda on his own and so she became adopted by his Brother David Hume and his wife Hannah Hume ( another Hannah).

David and Hannah Hume also immigrated to Tasmania NSW on the same boat as James.
David and Hannah later move to the Maitland/Carrow brook/ Largs?Dunmore area in Nsw.
I know Matilda was in that area by 1863 at the latest because she gave birth to a child in East Maitland.
James Hume (not to be confused with James Hall Hume, David's son and Matilda's first cousin whom she married in 1868) passed away after complications from almost drowning on 29 March 1853 1861.

I would like to see if I can find the movements of these families between Hannah's death in 1851/1853 and Matilda giving birth in 1863.

I have tried to look up passenger lists of ships departing Tasmania for Newcastle or Sydney but haven't had much luck.

I am researching the daughter that Matilda gave birth to in 1863 but that is a whole different can of worms :D

At this stage it would be great if I could build a picture of her mother, Matilda's movements in those years prior .
If anyone has any ideas on where I might find information that would be much lay appreciated.

Thank you so much.

POST SCRIPT UPDATES: thank you to those lovely helpers for finding this information
* James Hume Junior was born in Tasmania in 1850 but died in NSW in 1852; so they migrated to the Mainland between these years.
* It looks like Hannah may have died in NSW also, not Tasmania.
* They originally immigrated aboard to Andromache to NSW ( which could be where Margaret Hume left/died), then it seems they later moved to Tasmania which is where James married Hannah Maley/Malley/Mailey and gave birth to James junior and Matilda. After which they moved back to the mainland where it seems James junior and Hannah passed away.


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Re: HUME, Matilda. Looking for passage from Tasmania to mainland with father James
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 September 16 14:08 BST (UK) »
Hannah passed away in 21 April 1853 (haven't sited a death certificate but there was another entry of a Hannah Humes dying in Tasmania in 1851 age 36...

I can't see a Hannah who died in 1853?  Was it in Hobart? Was it registered?  Did she actually die in NSW?

The one who died in 1851 in Tas was a Gardener's wife (your James was a Tailor) and the child by the same name who died in 1855 appears to be her daughter.

https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-3p117j2k
https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-5$init=RGD35-1-5p49jpg


James Hume (not to be confused with James Hall Hume, David's son and Matilda's first cousin whom she married in 1868) passed away after complications from almost drowning on 29 March 1853.


So James died before Hannah?  I'm confused  ;D

Ok, I see he died in 1861 in NSW.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/28624847

Debra  :)

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Re: HUME, Matilda. Looking for passage from Tasmania to mainland with father James
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 September 16 14:17 BST (UK) »
*James Hume (junior) b. 12 June 1850 and passed away in 17 feb 1852.

He also died in NSW, so you know the family travelled between his birth in Tas in 1850 and his death in NSW in 1852.

Debra  :)

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Re: HUME, Matilda. Looking for passage from Tasmania to mainland with father James
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 September 16 15:37 BST (UK) »
The Andromache arrived into NSW in 1837, not Tasmania. 

Baptisms at Parramatta for David and Hannah from 1840/41.

NSW BDM have this one as 1840, FamilySearch 1841.

I assume the father's name is incorrect.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTDG-TJT

Debra  :)

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Re: HUME, Matilda. Looking for passage from Tasmania to mainland with father James
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 20 September 16 23:39 BST (UK) »
Wow that is fantastic! Thank you so much. The dates that I have are not concrete because we are still to sight original documents. Yes James Hume senior was a Tailor, it is written on their marriage certificate which I do have. It would explain why I can't find records in Tasmania. So they arrived on the mainland, then made their way to Tasmania, there he married Hannah who gave birth to James and Matilda and then between 1850 and 1852 they returned to the mainland.

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Re: HUME, Matilda. Looking for passage from Tasmania to mainland with father James
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 20 September 16 23:41 BST (UK) »
The Andromache arrived into NSW in 1837, not Tasmania. 

Baptisms at Parramatta for David and Hannah from 1840/41.

NSW BDM have this one as 1840, FamilySearch 1841.

I assume the father's name is incorrect.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTDG-TJT

Debra  :)

David Hume is James' brother. He also married a Hannah (née Johnson). Matilda went to live with them later in life.

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Re: HUME, Matilda. Looking for passage from Tasmania to mainland with father James
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 20 September 16 23:44 BST (UK) »
Hannah passed away in 21 April 1853 (haven't sited a death certificate but there was another entry of a Hannah Humes dying in Tasmania in 1851 age 36...

I can't see a Hannah who died in 1853?  Was it in Hobart? Was it registered?  Did she actually die in NSW?

The one who died in 1851 in Tas was a Gardener's wife (your James was a Tailor) and the child by the same name who died in 1855 appears to be her daughter.

https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-3p117j2k
https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-5$init=RGD35-1-5p49jpg


James Hume (not to be confused with James Hall Hume, David's son and Matilda's first cousin whom she married in 1868) passed away after complications from almost drowning on 29 March 1853.


So James died before Hannah?  I'm confused  ;D

Ok, I see he died in 1861 in NSW.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/28624847

Debra  :)

Haha yes sorry James senior died in 1861.. It was late, not sure where I pulled 1853 from lol

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Re: HUME, Matilda. Looking for passage from Tasmania to mainland with father James
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 September 16 00:06 BST (UK) »
Hannah passed away in 21 April 1853 (haven't sited a death certificate but there was another entry of a Hannah Humes dying in Tasmania in 1851 age 36...

I can't see a Hannah who died in 1853?  Was it in Hobart? Was it registered?  Did she actually die in NSW?

The one who died in 1851 in Tas was a Gardener's wife (your James was a Tailor) and the child by the same name who died in 1855 appears to be her daughter.

https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-3p117j2k
https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-5$init=RGD35-1-5p49jpg


James Hume (not to be confused with James Hall Hume, David's son and Matilda's first cousin whom she married in 1868) passed away after complications from almost drowning on 29 March 1853.


So James died before Hannah?  I'm confused  ;D

Ok, I see he died in 1861 in NSW.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/28624847

Debra  :)

A few family trees on ancestry say Hannah died in Strawberry Hills Nsw

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Re: HUME, Matilda. Looking for passage from Tasmania to mainland with father James
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 21 September 16 01:39 BST (UK) »

Hi,

A David Hume from Dunmore leaving the Colony in 1854.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/690941?searchTerm=

Dunmore was/is near Maitland.

Gerry