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Re: HUME, Matilda. Looking for passage from Tasmania to mainland with father James
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 21 September 16 01:55 BST (UK) »
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Hannah passed away in 21 April 1853 (haven't sited a death certificate but there was another entry of a Hannah Humes dying in Tasmania in 1851 age 36, Hannah was apparently born in 05 Jan 1816 which would put her at age 35/36 when she passed away so this is plausible).

NSW BDMís online index of their holdings of Early Church Records Burials
Volume 106,  line 611, in the year 1853,   Hannah HUME aged 37,
Volume 139, line 568, in the year 1853, Hannah HUME, aged 37

Likely these two references are for the one burial.  NSW BDM burial records are usually scant on family history information.  They should give you a cemetery.

Civil registration BDM commenced in NSW in 1856.

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Re: HUME, Matilda. Looking for passage from Tasmania to mainland with father James
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 21 September 16 02:18 BST (UK) »
NSW BDMís online index of their holdings of Early Church Records Burials
Volume 106,  line 611, in the year 1853,   Hannah HUME aged 37,
Volume 139, line 568, in the year 1853, Hannah HUME, aged 37

From NSW State Records Guide, Volume 106 is Presbyterian ECRs and covers burials from 1851-1854. 

https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/births-deaths-and-marriages-registers-1787-1856

The Ferguson Library's postal address is at Strawberry Hills.

A few family trees on ancestry say Hannah died in Strawberry Hills Nsw

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/AUS-NSW/2010-01/1264060133
 
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Re: HUME, Matilda. Looking for passage from Tasmania to mainland with father James
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 21 September 16 02:19 BST (UK) »
Hi RuleFamilyQld
I'm finding this a bit confusing - probably me!

It would be helpful if you could go back and edit the wrong information in the earlier posts.  You can highlight and then use the 'strike through' button S which is next to the B and I buttons.

James Hume senior was a Tailor, it is written on their marriage certificate which I do have. It would explain why I can't find records in Tasmania. So they arrived on the mainland, then made their way to Tasmania, there he married Hannah who gave birth to James and Matilda and then between 1850 and 1852 they returned to the mainland.

Was all of the following in Tasmania?
In 20 November 1844 he married Hannah Malley ( haven't found where she immigrated from yet)
They had two children, possibly three .
The two I know of are:
*Matilda Jane Hume b.15 May 1847
*James Hume (junior) b. 12 June 1850 and passed away in 17 feb 1852.


So - James HUME and his first wife Margaret arrived in NSW 1837 per Andromache.
By 1844 he was in Tasmania to marry Hannah MALLEY.
Baby James born in Tasmania 1850 and dies in NSW (as we now know from Debra's post) 1852.

Have I got this right so far?

Judith

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Re: HUME, Matilda. Looking for passage from Tasmania to mainland with father James
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 21 September 16 02:34 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Andromache, arrived in Sydney 31st October 1837.

David Hume, 29, gardiner, married with 2 children.
James Hume, 22, tailor, married, no children.

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Re: HUME, Matilda. Looking for passage from Tasmania to mainland with father James
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 21 September 16 02:39 BST (UK) »
Just some TROVE snippets which seem to be him in Hobart.

A sale of tailoring goods at his premises 1847 - there is a number of ads for his goods in 1847
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/163501233

Selling a 'patent mangle' on show at his premises, Elizabeth St, Hobart. 1847
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/8759795

The house he is occupying is to be let, 1849
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/8759795

Insolvent, Dec 1847
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/8762022

There are a couple of mentions of a James HUME, saddler in the same area of Elizabeth St, Hobart - so perhaps this may be him also. Edit to add - probably not according to later post by Debra

Judith
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Re: HUME, Matilda. Looking for passage from Tasmania to mainland with father James
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 21 September 16 02:44 BST (UK) »

Hi,

A David Hume from Dunmore leaving the Colony in 1854.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/690941?searchTerm=

Dunmore was/is near Maitland.

Gerry

oo that is interesting Thank you. I have looked through trove for David and James but hadn't come across this one. I wonder if he left and returned because I have other documents and articles showing him back in Dunmore with his wife Hannah owning an Orchard in 1869. That gives me some clues to look at shipping records, thank you

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Re: HUME, Matilda. Looking for passage from Tasmania to mainland with father James
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 21 September 16 03:02 BST (UK) »
Hi RuleFamilyQld
I'm finding this a bit confusing - probably me!

It would be helpful if you could go back and edit the wrong information in the earlier posts.  You can highlight and then use the 'strike through' button S which is next to the B and I buttons.

James Hume senior was a Tailor, it is written on their marriage certificate which I do have. It would explain why I can't find records in Tasmania. So they arrived on the mainland, then made their way to Tasmania, there he married Hannah who gave birth to James and Matilda and then between 1850 and 1852 they returned to the mainland.

Was all of the following in Tasmania?
In 20 November 1844 he married Hannah Malley ( haven't found where she immigrated from yet)
They had two children, possibly three .
The two I know of are:
*Matilda Jane Hume b.15 May 1847
*James Hume (junior) b. 12 June 1850 and passed away in 17 feb 1852.


So - James HUME and his first wife Margaret arrived in NSW 1837 per Andromache.
By 1844 he was in Tasmania to marry Hannah MALLEY.
Baby James born in Tasmania 1850 and dies in NSW (as we now know from Debra's post) 1852.

Have I got this right so far?

Judith

Yes that is correct Judith Thank you

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Re: HUME, Matilda. Looking for passage from Tasmania to mainland with father James
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 21 September 16 03:06 BST (UK) »
I wonder if there two D. Hume persons at Dunmore at that time?

Maybe he didn't leave Dunmore as advertised!

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/18657853?searchTerm=

Dunmore was the large property on which the Highlanders off the Government Bounty Ship 'Midlothian' settled in early 1838, many of the 'Midlothian' immigrants refused to separate and were settled as tenant farmers as a group on Dunmore.

Gerry

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Re: HUME, Matilda. Looking for passage from Tasmania to mainland with father James
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 21 September 16 03:21 BST (UK) »
Just some TROVE snippets which seem to be him in Hobart.

A sale of tailoring goods at his premises 1847 - there is a number of ads for his goods in 1847
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/163501233

Selling a 'patent mangle' on show at his premises, Elizabeth St, Hobart. 1847
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/8759795

The house he is occupying is to be let, 1849
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/8759795

Insolvent, Dec 1847
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/8762022

There are a couple of mentions of a James HUME, saddler in the same area of Elizabeth St, Hobart - so perhaps this may be him also.

Judith
that's great, thank you. And i guess tailor to saddler isn't a far stretch, just learning to work with different materials