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Customs officer / Excise officer
« on: Friday 23 September 16 19:38 BST (UK) »
I am trying to track an ancestor who was in Customs for 20 years and then, in 1820, applied to Excise as a Warehouse Keeper at the Tea Warehouses. His name was Henry Legg. The application says he was with Customs for 20 years. Henry was born in Winchcombe, Gloucestershire in 1779 and died in Camberwell, Surrey in 1841. His death certificate has his occupation as a "Skin Inspector, H.M. Customs". I am trying to track his career progression. Also wondering whether the Warehouse Keeper position was actually with Customs rather than with Excise. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Re: Customs officer / Excise officer
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 September 16 19:46 BST (UK) »
Was it a Bonded warehouse, do you know?

Which city was the warehouse keeper located at, please?
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Re: Customs officer / Excise officer
« Reply #2 on: Friday 23 September 16 19:52 BST (UK) »
I don't know if it was a bonded warehouse. What is significance?
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Re: Customs officer / Excise officer
« Reply #3 on: Friday 23 September 16 19:58 BST (UK) »
A bonded warehouse was a  secure unit.     Next to the docks usually.   Duty was charged when the goods were despatched from the warehouse.
Things like Whisky and tobacco.  And Tea  and Wine
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Re: Customs officer / Excise officer
« Reply #4 on: Friday 23 September 16 20:04 BST (UK) »
Poster stated it was a Tea Warehouse.

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Re: Customs officer / Excise officer
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 September 16 20:07 BST (UK) »
Check whether import duty was Charged on tea
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Re: Customs officer / Excise officer
« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 September 16 20:09 BST (UK) »
Try this:
https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1298760
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http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/en-214199-bonded-tea-warehouse-#.V-V9sjUyhdQ

Bonded Tea Warehouse, Liverpool. Listed building.

Quoting from LiverpoolMuseums.org.uk:
The Albert Dock proved very popular. Valuable cargoes such as brandy, tea, cotton, silk tobacco and sugar were unloaded from ships.

The proximity of the simple yet functional warehouses, which still encircle the dock today, allowed the rapid unloading and turn around of ships, and provided security for valuable cargoes. They were bonded which meant that import tax became payable only when the goods were ready to leave the warehouse, by which time the owner had sold the goods and raised the necessary funds. This also meant that customs men did not have to be on site when the cargo arrived.
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Re: Customs officer / Excise officer
« Reply #7 on: Friday 23 September 16 20:31 BST (UK) »
Henry's son was born in Surrey in 1817 and the 1841 census has the family living in Camberwell, Surrey. I assume that his posting was in London. (I'm in Vancouver, Canada so don't know if this is a logical assumption or not.)

I know that Customs and Excise amalgamated at some point but I believe that occurred later than the dates that I'm interested in. Is it logical that someone would start with Customs then move to Excise and then back to Customs? I think I read that Excise men could retire at 60 and receive a pension but I don't know about Customs men. Would they give up their pension if they moved between the two disciplines?
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Re: Customs officer / Excise officer
« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 September 16 20:35 BST (UK) »
At one time, The Customs House in Liverpool banked more money than any other customs house.
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