Arthur Stevens

[lankyloo98]

Hi, I am looking for any information on the birth, parents or siblings of Arthur Stevens born 25th July 1881, Colston Bassett, Nottingham, died October 1962 Grantham age 81.  I have his marriage to Mary Elizabeth Green in 1922 Grantham, but little information on his early life.

[rosie99]

What information does the marriage give about his father, who were the witnesses

[Jamjar]

That has him married age 41, so a previous marriage is a possibility, although not a certainty.

Previous: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=756321.msg6060394#msg6060394

Jamjar

[Dizzifish]

Hello....

I was only going to post to say there are no baptisms for any Stevens showing at Colston Bassett.

On looking for a suitable birth registration for an Arthur Stevens in the Bingham Registration district, I can't see one.

I looked for other Steven's living in Colston Bassett and I have come to the conclusion Arthur was not born in Colston Bassett and not registered in the name of Arthur Stevens.

I think it would be a good idea to obtain Arthur's marriage certificate to see what details he gave and to see if he had an earlier marriage, who were the witnesses etc.

I can see why this family have not been easy to find! I hope when you follow the census back you will see what I mean.

1901 - RG13 / Piece  3053/Folio 19/Page 15 - Blackwell Lodge, Croxton Kerrial,Leics
Arthur STEVENS, aged 19 - Farm Waggoner, born Colston Bassett, Notts.
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1901 - Piece3203/ Folio21/Page 8 - Chancery Row, Colston Basset, Nottinghamshire.
William Stevens, Married, aged 72 - Farm Lab - born Breaston, Derbyshire.
Mary A Stevens, Married, age 54 - born Harby
Thomas Stevens, son, single - aged 26- born Hathern
George Stevens, son, aged 24 - born Hathern
Martha Stevens, dau, aged 22 - Born Hathern
Lucy Stevens, dau, aged 14 - born Harby, Leics
John W Stevens, Grandson, aged 11 - born Melton Mowbray.
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1891 - RG12/2545/Piece 90/Page4 - Brickyard Row, Colston Road, Harby, Leics.
William Stevens, Married, aged 73 - Ag Lab - born Breaston, Derbyshire.
Mary A Stevens, Married, age 48 - born Harby
Thomas Starbuck, son, single - aged 18 - born Stathern
George Starbuck, son, aged  13 - born Stathern
ARTHUR Starbuck, son, aged 9, born Harby
Willie Starbuck, son, aged 7 - born Harby
Betsy Starbuck, Dau, aged 5 - - born Harby
Lucy Q Starbuck, dau, aged 4 - born Harby
Emma Starbuck, dau. single aged 25 - born Melton Mowbray.
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1881 - Harby, Leics - RG11/ Piece 3184 /Folio 93 /Page 6
William   Stevens, Head   Married  aged 61 Ag Lab- born Breaston, Nottinghamshire.   
Mary A   Stevens , Married - age 36 - born Garthorpe, Leicestershire.   
Emma   Stevens,  Daughter, - 15   ,born  Melton, Leicestershire.   
Eliza   Stevens   , Daughter, age13, born  Stathern, Leicestershire.   
Thomas  Stevens  , Son age 6, - born Stathern, Leicestershire            
George   Stevens   , Son age 4 - born Stathern, Leicestershire   
Martha   Stevens   , Daughter, age 2 - born Stathern, Leicestershire.   
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1871 - Stathern, Leicestershire - RG10/ Piece 3296/ Folio 154/ Page21
William Stevens, Un, aged 49 - Ag Lab - born Breaston, Notts.
Mary A Starbuck, Un,  aged 25 - House Keeper - born Harby, Leics.
Emma Starbuck, Housekeeper's dau, aged 4 yrs - born Melton, Leics.
Eliza Starbuck, Housekeeper's dau, aged 2 yrs - born Stathern, Leics.
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1861 - RG09/ Piece 2492 /Folio 6 /Page 12 - Town Street, Sandiacre, Derbyshire.
William STEVENS - aged 37 - Ag Lab - born Breaston, Derbys
Ann Stevens, wife, aged 35 - born Rothley, Leicestershire.
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1851 - HO107 /Piece  2140 /Folio 467 /Page 1 - Wilne, Derbyshire.
William Stevens, age 1824 - Ag Lab - born Breaston, Derbyshire.
Ann Stevens, Wife, aged 25 - born Rothley, Leicestershire.
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Extra bits

William Stevens married Ann Starbuck at All Saints, Dale Abbey, Derbys in 1848 ( Derbyshire registrars Marriage Index) - I wonder/suspect that the children's mother Mary Ann Starbuck was maybe related to Ann Starbuck and the reason she initially became William Stevens House Keeper?

I think Arthur was registered in Melton Mowbray district and Willie & Betsy have * Stevens Starbuck

Possible Deaths
Deaths Dec 1910   
Stevens     Mary A  - aged 65 -  Bingham    7b   284

Deaths Dec 1910   
Stevens    William - aged 81 -  Bingham    7b   264
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[larkspur]

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=756321.msg6061839#msg6061839

Doubling up here folks 

[Annette7]

Well done, Dizzifish.   Excellent work.

Annette

[lankyloo98]

Hi   wow. Many thanks for your help, I am glad you can see why I am going round in circles lol it's strange because no one in the family has any information on him, looking at this side of the family is driving me mad 😤

[lankyloo98]

Hi, it been a while, but I am back to this side of the family 
Looking back on the info sent (many thanks Dizzifish) it makes sense that Arthur Stevens could have actually been Arthur Starbuck.  My one question is why did they use the name Stevens in 1881, Starbuck in 1891 and back to Stevens in 1901? Also, why in 1901 did he say he was born in Colston Bassett, when he was actually born in Harby (a distance of 2.86 miles) was he trying to hide something?  I am currently waiting for the marriage certificate to arrive but in the mean time I will keep looking.  Any further info on Arthur Stevens (Starbuck) greatly appreciated!

[Annette7]

I think you'll find that William Stevens and Mary A Starbuck were never married - 1871 shows her single and housekeeper to William Stevens but with 2 daughters - she appeared to then live with him as his wife per the census and seems pretty obvious that he was the father of all the children virtually all of whom were registered under their mothers 'legal' name which was Starbuck (some of them have Stevens as a second Christian name).

So, legally the children's surname was Starbuck but on a day to day basis no doubt known as Stevens, their natural fathers surname.

Annette