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Re: Robert Glass, Linen Merchant, Lurgan, Portadown & Belfast
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 27 September 16 10:42 BST (UK) »
Good morning Annie,
Thank you for your reply.
Is it from the fact that Maria had the middle name Matier and Henry also had the middle name Matier that you have formed the opinion that a female Matier had married a male member of the Glass family?

Or have you identified any other possible reason for that possibility ?

I had not considered that link previously.

It is from the ten births to Robert Glass and Sarah Jane Brown that I am trying to find a living relative. There are still some Glass family members living in and around Belfast today but my search so far has been fruitless. Any suggestions ?

Strangely, Henry Matier Glass was quite famous during WW1, he was the General Manager of Workman, Clark shipbuilders and at a time had 10,000+ men under his control. He was awarded an OBE for his civilian efforts during the War. There is very little documented about him !!

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Michael.

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Re: Robert Glass, Linen Merchant, Lurgan, Portadown & Belfast
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 11 October 16 11:40 BST (UK) »
Just getting a chance to trace descendants of Robert Glass not that I'm back home.

Found another sibling of Henry Matier Glass'- Anna Matilda Glass married a minister Robert William Sinclair according to son's birth certificate (remember young nephew Robert Louis Sinclair in 1901 census). Here's Robert Louis Sinclair's birth registration-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/efa7956019914
Father's address Cromwell Road- same as Galss family:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Cromac/Cromwell_Road/968844
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Re: Robert Glass, Linen Merchant, Lurgan, Portadown & Belfast
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 11 October 16 11:51 BST (UK) »
Good morning Aghadowey,
Many thanks for remembering my query. I appreciate that.
That certainly extends the family line.
If Anna Matilda Glass is a sister of Henry Matier Glass, then that makes 11 in the family. Hopefully that extends the possibility of finding a living relative.
As it turns out, Henry Matier's line dies with the next generation. He had 2 daughters. They emigrated to South Africa. One got married and had no children. The other did not marry.
Have you any suggestions how to trace any living relatives of any of the descendants please?.
I tried the phone book and ringing any Glass names in the Belfast area. Alas, no luck.
Kind regards
Michael Traynor

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Re: Robert Glass, Linen Merchant, Lurgan, Portadown & Belfast
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 11 October 16 11:58 BST (UK) »
Am working on finding descendants or Robert Glass but it takes time to track down each child to see if they married, etc.  ;)

Robert W. Sinclair, minister, Sligo, married 4 Sept.1886 Anna M. Glass (age 18)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/2b491e7714588

Robert William Sinclair, Presbyterian missionary, died 6 June 1904 Porbunder [Porbander], India-
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639436053

Added- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGT8-22T
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Re: Robert Glass, Linen Merchant, Lurgan, Portadown & Belfast
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 11 October 16 12:22 BST (UK) »
Helen Glass, daughter of Robert, married 23 May 1901 William Gillespie Reid, P.O. clerk, Armagh- witness Sara Glass:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/9f4dfd7357764

Son Thomas Lambert Reid born 15 Mar.1902 Dublin-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/6c8ff83557940
Daughter Helen Elizabeth Reid born 7 Jan.1904 Clontarf (Dublin)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/8ac50f2910375
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Re: Robert Glass, Linen Merchant, Lurgan, Portadown & Belfast
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 11 October 16 13:07 BST (UK) »
Think we're getting closer to living descendants!

William Gilleslpie Reid in 1901 (just before marriage)-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/South_Ward/Dobbin_Street/1010936

At least 2 online trees for Reid family FULL of errors but one indicates that William G. Reid died 23 Jan.1934 C'well, Victoria, Australia (no death listed for wife Helen).

1933  (London to Melbourne)- W.G. Reid, 65, retired civil servant, travelling with T.L. Reid, 31, combustion engineer.

Family tree lists other children but I want to verify before posting
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Re: Robert Glass, Linen Merchant, Lurgan, Portadown & Belfast
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 11 October 16 15:54 BST (UK) »
Yes, you certainly have produced some additional names there indeed, thank you. Hopefully that family tree might produce at least one link to the present descendants......

Ive made contact with people in South Africa, but they are not blood relatives. They just knew the 2 Glass sisters when they lived there.

I did manage to make contact with an optician in Belfast called R. A. Glass, but unfortunately he had no information regarding his ancestors.

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Re: Robert Glass, Linen Merchant, Lurgan, Portadown & Belfast
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 11 October 16 18:47 BST (UK) »
Have found descendants of Helen Glass living in Australia and New Zealand!

To recap-
1.   Sarah Glass (1868-bef.1874)
2.   Robert Glass (1869)
3.   Maria Lambert Matier Glass (1871 Armagh-1952), unmarried
4.   Helen Glass (1872) m. William Gillespie Reid- family see below
5.   Sarah Glass (1874) 
6.   Henry Matier Glass (1875 Co.Armagh)
7.   John Birch Glass (1878 Belfast) partner in McCoull & Glass, Tea Merchants
     www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Clifton_Ward/Antrim_Road/170685
8.   James Glass (1879 Belfast) draper
9.   William Glass (1880 Belfast)
10.   George Shaw Glass (21 Aug.1883 Belfast)
     This file is MOST interesting and well worth reading carefully-
     file:///C:/Users/Lizzie/Downloads/Section_2_-_Great_War_Servicemen_Biographies%20(1).pdf
11.   Anna Matilda Glass married Sinclair- son: Robert Louis Sinclair (1895 Belfast)

William Gillespie Reid (d.1934 Australia) m.(1901) Helen Glass (born Portadown)
1911- Harrogate: William https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWNV-R6T, Helen https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWNV-R6Y, Thomas https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWNV-R6B, Helen https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWNV-R61, ? son John https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWNV-RXM
1.   Thomas Lambert Reid (1902 Dublin-1976 Vic.) m.(1928) Dora Louise Bergenie (1902-1975)- family
     20 Apr.1928 “Cathay” departed London for Melbourne- Thomas Lambert Reid & wife Dora
2.   Helen Elizabeth Reid (1904 Dublin-1913 Yorks)
     Death: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2N1K-89Z
3.   William Gillespie Reid (1907 Yorks-1910 Yorks)
     Birth: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2FNT-LZ2
     Death: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2J7L-DG1
4.   John M. H. Reid (1910 Yorks-1916 Yorks)
     Birth: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2F2K-MMB
     Death: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2JWG-3ZW
5.   Olive Glass Reid (1912 Yorks-2006) m.(1936 Dublin) Eric Norman Armstrong (d.1945 WWII)
     Birth: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2FGR-3RY
     Marriage: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/0be60e6612214
     Death (Eric) http://invokinglibitina.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/flight-lieutenant-eric-norman-armstrong.html (contact Sandra through this site!)
ARMSTRONG (née Rowe) (Olive Glass) (Coolbeg, Templeshannon, Enniscorthy, Co. Wexford) - March 6, 2006 (peacefully), in the loving care of Triona and the staff of Valentia Nursing Home, Camolin, beloved wife of the late Eric; will be sadly missed by nieces and nephews, their families and her many friends. At her request her remains will be donated to Medical Science (Trinity College).

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Re: Robert Glass, Linen Merchant, Lurgan, Portadown & Belfast
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 11 October 16 23:26 BST (UK) »
Hello Aghadowey,
I just got home and what a pleasant surprise. You have turned up so many descendants of those 11 Glass children. And you are getting so many of them up to recent years. Its a pity so far they are in the Southern Hemisphere !!..... but you did discover some at least on the island here !. Thank you.
Gosh, its so close to contact with a living relative. That will be such a joy. What will be a greater pleasure if they have a family tree done. !!

Is that your comment to contact Sandra through that web site you listed ??

You have done terrific work in only a day or so on this task. You definitely know your way to ferret out family history details.
Thank you again,
Michael.