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Re: Harcourt family of Ankerwycke, history and any relatives left
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 13 April 17 07:46 BST (UK) »

"Regarding Otto Simon Henry Harcourt, son of George Harcourt and Gertrude Lucas, have you ever come across confirmation as to Ottos childrens names, its his sons I need to trace."

Hello Brooke

Using
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Otto Simon Henry Harcourt was born 1849 in the Registration District of Eton.

Otto Simon H Harcourt, married 1872 in the Registration District of Swansea.

Otto S H Harcourt, Married 1910 in the Registration District of Westminster.

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Newspaper Births

You may wish to check the index for free by signing into the GRO Index, as there may be more possibles.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/


The Standard, 15 October 1874
BIRTHS
HARCOURT.- Sept. 7, at Athens, the wife of Otto Harcourt, Esq., of a son.

No name, but birth Athens.


The Morning Post (London), 27 August 1875
HARCOURT.- On the 24th inst., at Broadstairs, Kent, the [wife? scan unreadable / missing] Otto Harcourt, of a son.

Possibly Wilfred Otto HARCOURT, Registration District of Thanet.


London Evening Standard, 26 November 1877
BIRTHS.
HARCOURT.- Nov. 18, at 101, Randolph-road, Maida-hill, the wife of Otto Harcourt, Esq., of a son.

Possibly Norman HARCOURT, Registration District of Kensington?


I can't access any Census images, but hopefully, somebody on here will be able to check the family in the Census for you?


Regards Mark

Hello Brooke

1871 Census (image not checked)
St George, Hanover Square, Middlesex

Otto Harcourt, Lodger, age 22, Unmarried, Engineer, Birthplace Wraysbury, Buckinghamshire.
Cyril Harcourt, Lodger, age 20, Unmarried, Medical Student, Birthplace Ryde, Isle of Wight.


1891 Census from Family Search (original image not seen / checked)
De Grey Road, Emmanuel, Leeds

Otto S H Harcourt, Head, Married, age 42, Engineer, Birthplace Buckinghamshire.
Isabella L Harcourt, Wife, Married, age 37, Birthplace South America.
Beatrice M. Harcourt, Daughter, age 18, Birthplace England.
Gerald St J Harcourt, Son, age 9, Birthplace Yorkshire.
Ivor J Harcourt, Son, age 6, Birthplace Lancashire.
Isabella Turner, Servant, age 21, Birthplace Northumberland.
Annie W Wain, Servant, age 22, Birthplace Yorkshire.


Christening (image not checked)
2nd June 1880
Clifton, St Paul, Gloucestershire
Florence Helena Harcourt
Father's Name, Otto Simon Henry Harcourt
Mother's Name, Isabella Leonora Harcourt


Regards Mark


EDIT, a very broad search (results also have conflicting/poor transcriptions):-
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3AHarcourt~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1872-1910~%20%2Bfather_givenname%3AOtto~%20%2Bfather_surname%3AHarcourt~%20%2Bmother_givenname%3AIsabella~%20%2Brecord_country%3AEngland

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Re: Harcourt family of Ankerwycke, history and any relatives left
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 13 April 17 08:41 BST (UK) »
Mmn for Norman born 1877 -  DeLisle
Added also same for Florence.

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Re: Harcourt family of Ankerwycke, history and any relatives left
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 13 April 17 08:49 BST (UK) »
1861 census  Grammar School Felsted Essex

Scholar aged 12 with brother Cyril aged 10.

Jennifer
Stevens /Godfrey /Rudgley /Claridge/ Gipson /George /Bliss
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Re: Harcourt family of Ankerwycke, history and any relatives left
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 13 April 17 09:04 BST (UK) »
Mother Johanna Helena DeLisle widow 43 married Newman Ward her father John Christian Zimmerman - merchant. Paddington 1866

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Stevens /Godfrey /Rudgley /Claridge/ Gipson /George /Bliss
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Re: Harcourt family of Ankerwycke, history and any relatives left
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 13 April 17 09:15 BST (UK) »
1861 census mother known as Helena born New York USA British Nat Sub all children born in Buenos Aires or Monte Video living in Birkenhead.

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Re: Harcourt family of Ankerwycke, history and any relatives left
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 13 April 17 10:11 BST (UK) »
Norman and Wilfred in Denstone College Staffordshire 1891 looks like Norman dies Natal South Africa.

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Re: Harcourt family of Ankerwycke, history and any relatives left
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 13 April 17 10:54 BST (UK) »
Mmn for Norman born 1877 -  DeLisle
Added also same for Florence.


Norman Di Lisle Harcourt
Baptism 30 Jan 1878 St Saviour Paddington
parents Otto Simon Henry Harcourt occ Engineer & Isabella Leonora
18 Randolph Road
Register Type:   Parish Registers

Perhaps someone has access for further details on following from Anc*y

Transvaal Province, South Africa, Estates Death Notice Index, 1855-1976
Norman DE Lisle Harcourt

baptism of Norman & Helena Dora Harcourt’s son Otto & dau Beatrice
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KYJ3-M9P
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVSH-FKG3

Wilfred Otto Harcourt
Baptism 2 Oct 1875 St Saviour Paddington
parents   Otto Simon Henry Harcourt occ Engineer Isabella Leonora
8 Eastbourne Terrace Hyde Park

Not sure if this is same person

UK, Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Soldier Service Records, 1760-1920
Wilfred Otto Harcourt Age:   23
Birth abt 1877 Birth Place: Merthys Dovan Glamorgan, Wales
Service Start Year:   1900
Regiment:   The Welsh Regiment
Regimental Number:   Welsh/7473
Attestation Paper:   y
Next of Kin father Mr O Harcourt, Nassaur? House, Francis Street Leeds

Ivor James Harcourt born 15 Aug 1884
Baptism Date:   5 Jul 1885  St Mary, Hulme Manchester,
Otto Harcourt occ Traveller & Isabella

Transcript only

Beatrice Maude Harcourt
Baptism    30 Apr 1873Saint John,Cardiff,Glamorgan,Wales
parents   Otto Simon Henry Harcourt & Isabella Leonora

Beatrice is on 1881  RG11; Piece: 2164; Folio: 10; Page: 13 great niece of
Alfred & Juliet e L. De Lisle

Gerald Harcourt
Baptism 26 Mar 1882 St. George's, Sheffield, York, England
parents Otto Harcourt & Isabella

Gerald Harcourt age 23
Birth Place:   Sheffield
Event Date:   23 Sep 1905
Prison or Quarter Session:   HMP Wakefield
Location:   Wakefield, West Yorkshire, England




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Re: Harcourt family of Ankerwycke, history and any relatives left
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 13 April 17 13:00 BST (UK) »

Christening (image not checked)
2nd June 1880
Clifton, St Paul, Gloucestershire
Florence Helena Harcourt
Father's Name, Otto Simon Henry Harcourt
Mother's Name, Isabella Leonora Harcourt


Burial

Florence Helena Harcourt
age 0
Buria 18 Dec 1880 Westbury on Trym, Holy Trinity, Gloucestershire, England
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Re: Harcourt family of Ankerwycke, history and any relatives left
« Reply #17 on: Friday 14 April 17 16:03 BST (UK) »
Hello Mark
Thankyou for this information, but some parts have me stumped. This Otto Simon Henry Harcourt is I believe the eldest son of George Harcourt's second marriage to a Gertrude Charlotte Lucas married abt 1846.

From what I have been told is that Otto Simon Henry Harcourt married a Muriel Ascroft abt 1892 and they had a son named Charles Walmer Harcourt b abt 1895. This son later used his mothers name Ascroft to enable him to inherit a gold mine in Magliesburg, Africa.

I also am led to believe Charles Walmer Harcourt (Ascroft) married in 1912 a Cecil Violet Enid Greville at Pietermaritzburg, Natal, Africa.

Is there any confirmation as to this person Charles and did he have siblings.

Thankyou