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« Reply #9 on: Sunday 02 October 16 16:45 BST (UK) »
Strange thing is, that Youghal is in County Cork, Ireland.
And that is where she was stranded.

She was sold to the Sharpness New Docks & Gloucester & Birmingham Navigation Co. in 1910, and dismantled in 1926.
If she had been stranded, was she in a fit state to be used under sail, or did she become an accommodation vessel straightaway?
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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 02 October 16 17:50 BST (UK) »
There is a newspaper article listing imports and exports from Gloucester Docks for week ending 24th August 1911, which gives the Selina Jane travelling to Ilfracombe with 76 tonnes of coal - so if it is the same ketch, then it seems she was in use still.

(From Gloucester Journal)

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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 02 October 16 18:08 BST (UK) »
Yes Spidermonkey, she must have been sailable otherwise why buy her only to leave her in County Cork ?
She probably worked for a few years then accommodation at Sharpness then dismantled at Purton, not far away ?

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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 02 October 16 18:27 BST (UK) »
Stranded doesn't mean wrecked. She could quite easily have grounded on a firm surface without significant damage to the hull.

As to location, not only is the Sharpness canal a ship canal but the Severn is navigable by small going vessels at the right state of the tide as far as Worcester. The Worcester and Birmingham basin at Worcester is accessible to boats of 14 foot beam to transfer cargo but the canal itself is a narrow canal.
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 02 October 16 18:35 BST (UK) »
The May 24th 1913 newspaper reports of the half yearly meeting of the Gloucester Dock Co make reference to a refit of the Selina Jane "some two or three years ago" to give her comfortable sleeping accommodation, as she often carried 40 or 50, up to 70 men to Northwick to lighten vessels there.

It's not such a huge jump from having comfortable sleeping accommodation to being lodgings for stevedores.

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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 02 October 16 18:43 BST (UK) »
....and ended up as an accommodation vessel for stevedores at Sharpness. 
So, looks like she was at Sharpness?

Hi KGarrad
She did indeed up as an accommodation vessel .
 However, the image isn't Sharpness Docks. it maybe near Sharpness but the postcard pre dates 1926. (It isn't used but the style of card on the reverse and general "feel" of the PC to me suggests pre WWII)
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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 02 October 16 18:48 BST (UK) »
If she had been stranded, was she in a fit state to be used under sail, or did she become an accommodation vessel straightaway?

"Stranded" in nautical terms could mean as little as: "A sailing ship caught in the Doldrums can be stranded due to lack of wind"

In which case after complete rest she could easily have made it back to Sharpness and carried on sailing until the 1920s
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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 02 October 16 18:54 BST (UK) »
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as she often carried 40 or 50, up to 70 men to Northwick to lighten vessels there.
Northwick is at Worcester upstream of the canal junction so should could be there or at any quay on the river.
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« Reply #17 on: Sunday 02 October 16 18:54 BST (UK) »
There is a newspaper article listing imports and exports from Gloucester Docks for week ending 24th August 1911, which gives the Selina Jane travelling to Ilfracombe with 76 tonnes of coal - so if it is the same ketch, then it seems she was in use still.

(From Gloucester Journal)

Spidermonkey...well found & good point. I believe you can only have the one name registered for a vessel of the same type. Different if a steamship is named SJ but I stand corrected. At least the date fits nicely in. So, the area widens!
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