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Re: Douglas John Bowler 1919 - 1944
« Reply #9 on: Monday 03 October 16 08:03 BST (UK) »
Here is the info about the 1939 register- taken on the 29th Sept 1939 just as war started.
It was updated with change of names due to marriage until 1991,it was used as a register for ration books.

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/1939register/what-is-the-1939-register

It is available on a pay per view or subscription basis and as such unlike the old censuses we are not allowed to type out the info for someone else that would be against the terms and conditions.
We manage to get round it by giving a few clues and hoping people can find relatives themselves.

Ladies are often down with 2 or even 3 surnames,as they will be on their with thier maiden name and also their new married one,as in the case of Beatrice only marrying the following year.
Then if someone is widowed they may have a 3rd surname if they marry again too.

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Re: Douglas John Bowler 1919 - 1944
« Reply #10 on: Monday 03 October 16 10:32 BST (UK) »

Interestingly her father was given as a 'Pottery Manufacturer' in the wedding register.  Given that Douglas John Bowler seems to be from Kingston, Surrey and she was from Newton Abbott I am intrigued why they are marrying in the little hamlet of Emmington in Oxfordshire!?

It was wartime, perhaps that is where he was stationed - maybe she was there as a land girl, or even stationed near there herself.
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Re: Douglas John Bowler 1919 - 1944
« Reply #11 on: Monday 03 October 16 13:15 BST (UK) »
You said in your first post that you have access to Ancestry, so if you put in the name Robert G Fry, Newton Abbott and a rough birthdate of 1890, you will find him in the 1911 census - occupation Pottery Maker. As he is still single and at home, that will take you back another generation.
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Re: Douglas John Bowler 1919 - 1944
« Reply #12 on: Monday 03 October 16 13:33 BST (UK) »
Do you have a copy of DOuglas's 1919 birth cert?  If not, what is the source of his parents' names?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Douglas John Bowler 1919 - 1944
« Reply #13 on: Monday 03 October 16 13:45 BST (UK) »
Do you have a copy of DOuglas's 1919 birth cert?  If not, what is the source of his parents' names?

I think that comes from the information given on the CWGC re his death.
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Re: Douglas John Bowler 1919 - 1944
« Reply #14 on: Monday 03 October 16 14:02 BST (UK) »
Do you have a copy of DOuglas's 1919 birth cert?  If not, what is the source of his parents' names?

I think that comes from the information given on the CWGC re his death.

And also his birth index-where it gives his mother's name as Bowler as well as his own surname.

Not impossible- his parents could have been cousins (my grandparents were)

But more likely that they hadn't actually married,as none of us can find a marriage.

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Re: Douglas John Bowler 1919 - 1944
« Reply #15 on: Monday 03 October 16 14:02 BST (UK) »
I'm having trouble finding a Henry John Bowler. Thought I had him born 1893 Kingston, but that one died as a baby the same year.
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Re: Douglas John Bowler 1919 - 1944
« Reply #16 on: Monday 03 October 16 14:10 BST (UK) »

He was married at Emmington, near Thame in 1940 and I have found this in the Parish Records, and the baptism of a daughter the following year.  He married Beatrice Joyce Fry and again I am having trouble finding out anything about her although the CWGC register says she was from Tetsworth, Oxfordshire.


Do you have his 1940 marriage cert? What does it say that his father does for a job and where did he live when he married?

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Re: Douglas John Bowler 1919 - 1944
« Reply #17 on: Monday 03 October 16 14:13 BST (UK) »
There is a Henry John Bowler born 1883 Guildford.

Then a marriage in St Andrew, Grafham (diocese of Guidlford) of a Henry John Bowler, a dental mechanic, to Harriet Minnie Moore on Sept 11th 1909. Henry's address at the time was Battersea and his father was George, a labourer.  Douglas's birth certificate could show if this was the same man if he had the same occupation.
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