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Help needed reading a Welsh place name
« on: Monday 03 October 16 20:36 BST (UK) »
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Can anyone help with this Welsh place name? It looks like Tegrdar, but I can find no such name.
Banks - Wick, Caithness
Dunbar - Co Antrim-Birkenhead-Liverpool
Kemp - Woodnesborough,Kent-Liverpool
Long - Ireland-Liverpool
Clarke - Ireland-Liverpool
Weldon - Dublin-Birkenhead
Thomas - LLandysilio,Anglesey-Liverpool
Roberts -Denbighshire-Liverpool
Spain-Woodnesborough, Kent
Seed - Ballyculter, Co. Down
Graham-Ayrshire-Ballyculter-Liverpool

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Re: Help needed reading a Welsh place name
« Reply #1 on: Monday 03 October 16 20:42 BST (UK) »
Are the rest of the words in the Welsh language. do you know?
Nursall   ~    Buckinghamshire
Avies ~   Norwich

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Re: Help needed reading a Welsh place name
« Reply #2 on: Monday 03 October 16 21:00 BST (UK) »
The beginning could/should be Ty (mutated to T')  yr d.... or cha...  Can't think of a Teyr....

Could you give details of the extract, please. It might help working it out.

Added - are you sure it's in Denbighshire - have been through a long list and can't see anything like it  :-\
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Re: Help needed reading a Welsh place name
« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 October 16 21:38 BST (UK) »
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Can anyone help with this Welsh place name? It looks like Tegrdar, but I can find no such name.
  Please give more details?
When, what date?   What  document is your extract taken from please?
Nursall   ~    Buckinghamshire
Avies ~   Norwich


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Re: Help needed reading a Welsh place name
« Reply #4 on: Monday 03 October 16 22:50 BST (UK) »
Extract taken from Denbigh baptisms on Findmypast, 1822. There are other baptisms from siblings from 1810 -1823
place: LLanelian Yn Rhos
abode: Dolwen
fathers occupation coachman at ?
Banks - Wick, Caithness
Dunbar - Co Antrim-Birkenhead-Liverpool
Kemp - Woodnesborough,Kent-Liverpool
Long - Ireland-Liverpool
Clarke - Ireland-Liverpool
Weldon - Dublin-Birkenhead
Thomas - LLandysilio,Anglesey-Liverpool
Roberts -Denbighshire-Liverpool
Spain-Woodnesborough, Kent
Seed - Ballyculter, Co. Down
Graham-Ayrshire-Ballyculter-Liverpool

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Re: Help needed reading a Welsh place name
« Reply #6 on: Monday 03 October 16 23:18 BST (UK) »
and a different spelling of it on this 1898 map:

http://maps.nls.uk/view/101169713#zoom=6&lat=2130&lon=4209&layers=BT

Teirdan
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Re: Help needed reading a Welsh place name
« Reply #7 on: Friday 07 October 16 21:26 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for your help. Teyrdan is probable right, I read the y as a g, There was a Teyrdan hall in the same area that is now a pig farm, so perhaps my ancestor was a coachman for the family that owned the original hall.
Banks - Wick, Caithness
Dunbar - Co Antrim-Birkenhead-Liverpool
Kemp - Woodnesborough,Kent-Liverpool
Long - Ireland-Liverpool
Clarke - Ireland-Liverpool
Weldon - Dublin-Birkenhead
Thomas - LLandysilio,Anglesey-Liverpool
Roberts -Denbighshire-Liverpool
Spain-Woodnesborough, Kent
Seed - Ballyculter, Co. Down
Graham-Ayrshire-Ballyculter-Liverpool