Author Topic: Ancestral origins of the family of Harold Shiers (born Blackpool 1899).  (Read 5685 times)

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Re: Ancestral origins of the family of Harold Shiers (born Blackpool 1899).
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 20 October 16 06:22 BST (UK) »
Yes, my mistake. A typo. It also states that Jacob was a "Fringe weaver". I think this may refer to the tzitzits, the woven fringes of a tallit which have a religious significance.

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Re: Ancestral origins of the family of Harold Shiers (born Blackpool 1899).
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 12 February 19 14:41 GMT (UK) »
Harrold was my great uncle, he lived in Leigh with his sister and my father. I know little about his marital status,  I notice you say he was the second husband of your grandmother. What was her name? I am interested in any information you have about him and his household. The 1939 register shows that there was another Shiers in the house. her name is given a Marrissa aged 74  but i have not come across anyone of that name, it could of course be an error.

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Re: Ancestral origins of the family of Harold Shiers (born Blackpool 1899).
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 12 February 19 15:14 GMT (UK) »
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Marrissa

Looks more like "Mary A" to me.
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Re: Ancestral origins of the family of Harold Shiers (born Blackpool 1899).
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 12 February 19 15:58 GMT (UK) »
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The 1939 register shows that there was another Shiers in the house

Also in the same household in 1939 are Harold's sister Vera Grenelli and his nephew Leonard Shiers. 
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Re: Ancestral origins of the family of Harold Shiers (born Blackpool 1899).
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 12 February 19 15:59 GMT (UK) »
Granted the wrting in the register is not clear, the transcription gives her as Marissa, but as far as i have gone there is no Mary A in the family either.

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Re: Ancestral origins of the family of Harold Shiers (born Blackpool 1899).
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 12 February 19 16:03 GMT (UK) »
Yes the Nephew Leonard was my father, who lived with Harold. I believe that Vera Grenelli was as you say Harold's sister, I found a marriage of Vera to a Frank Grenelli, but no notification of divorce or death. A Frank Grenelli did appear later as married to a Vivienne Snowball . dont know if it is the same one as married to Vera.

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Re: Ancestral origins of the family of Harold Shiers (born Blackpool 1899).
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 12 February 19 16:10 GMT (UK) »
I am wondering if "Marisa" is actually Harold's mother Amelia.
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Re: Ancestral origins of the family of Harold Shiers (born Blackpool 1899).
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 12 February 19 22:30 GMT (UK) »
Would be about the right age. Amelia was born in 1866 in 1939 she would have been 73

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Re: Ancestral origins of the family of Harold Shiers (born Blackpool 1899).
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 13 February 19 07:02 GMT (UK) »
Hello David, pleased to get your reply. Harold Shiers married my grandmother Edith Alice Wilson (nee Prescott) in 1946, three years after the death of her first husband James Robert Wilson (a grocery store manager). They lived in Granville Street in Leigh. There were no children from the marriage as both were by then in their mid forties. I am not sure how they met, perhaps in relation to Harold's job as an insurance clerk (at least that is what my dad said he was). I haven't got my paperwork to hand just now so I am unable to let you have all the information that you may be interested in. One thing is bothering me. At some point I came across a reference to Harold's grandfather Jacob being born in Silesia but have misplaced the relevant source of information. The 1861 and 1871 censuses have his birthplace as Austria. I need to brush up on my European history.

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