1861 census missing data

[Becky Jennings]

i'm searching under Yorkshire Clayton & have searched all districts.
i'm looking for yews farm, yews green, clayton, bradford, west yorkshire
called views cottages on 1871 & Yews on 1851
districts 17 & 18 show some local houses but not this or any in the immediate vicinity.
can anyone help please? huge thanks in advance

[philipsearching]

Hallo, Becky, and a warm welcome to Rootschat.

This may be a silly question, but I'll ask it anyway!  Is the family at Yews/Views in 1851 the same as in 1871?  If so (or even if not), have you tried finding them in 1861.  It's possible that their abode was recorded under an odd name.

All the best
Philip

[Becky Jennings]

thanks phillip
it's actually the property i'm tracing not a specific family
1871 families are rawnsley & bairstow as was 2 cottages when the railway came in the 1870's.
we beleive the smaller cottage was the signal mans house but have found no evidence of this.

just researching 1850's now

[philipsearching]

thanks phillip
it's actually the property i'm tracing not a specific family
1871 families are rawnsley & bairstow as was 2 cottages when the railway came in the 1870's.
we beleive the smaller cottage was the signal mans house but have found no evidence of this.

just researching 1850's now

Hallo, again.
Apologies for not making myself clear.  What I meant was, even though you are not researching the families you might find them in the same property - which would give you the answer.

Looking at what you have written, I suppose it is possible that the property was being redeveloped at the time of the 1861 census and, if it had no occupiers, would not be included on the census.  If so, that would be really unfortunate timing!

Regards
Philip

[Becky Jennings]

hi phillip
yeah i tried that.........it doesn't work lol
1881 references yews farm & 2 cottages as uninhabited
1871 views cottages (this is mentioned on the deed)
1861 missing
1851 could be yews or yews green top

i've not found any family that appears twice at this property so far

[mazi]

You have probably seen this, yews green is at the top of the map just left of Queensbury north station

http://maps.nls.uk/view/100946990

Mike

[mazi]

On this map of 1848 there seems to be a yew green farm and the rest of the village is called green top, maybe the old name lingered on

http://maps.nls.uk/view/102344953

Mike

[Kay99]

Yews Green should have been in District 17 in 1861.   The description of the enumeration district on page 1 specifically includes West Choles(Scholes) Gate, Yews Green and Hollingwell Hill as shown on the map published in 1852 (that Mazi posted) http://maps.nls.uk/view/102344953#zoom=5&lat=4812&lon=3971&layers=BT

Looking at the enumerators route for District 17 in the 1861 census(I used both the map link above and the later 1909 map to follow the property names http://maps.nls.uk/view/100946990#zoom=4&lat=5310&lon=4670&layers=BT ) he started at West Scholes Gate walked south to Carter Farm then turned east towards Lanes then south east to Greenland and north east  to Clayton Edge then east to Old Gill, Fiddlers, Jockey Halll and Black Hill.    Then back north west to Bridle Stile and Hollingwell Hill next door to Yews Green

Unless he included properties at Yews Green as part of Hollingwell Hill, which is entirely possible as there appear to be 6 properties at Hollingwell Hill of which 3 were empty,  he then missed out Yew Green and turned east for Hole Bottom   

Kay

Edit - In the 23 October 1862 - Bradford Observer mention is made of a Henry Jowett age 17 son of Benjamin Jowettt of Yews Green, Clayton.     The family were living at Yews Green Top in 1851 and presumably based on the newspaper report should have been there in 1861??    The family appear  to have been missed by the 1861 census - I can't see them elsewhere.

[Dundee]

Just following on from Kay's post, the enumerator for District 8 came down from Carr House - Cocking Lane - Green Head/Top, and then to West Scholes.

RG 9/3336/111 p 1

......Then back north west to Bridle Stile and Hollingwell Hill next door to Yews Green....
he then missed out Yew Green and turned east for Hole Bottom   

Kay

So basically because your place is just off the main road and past the junction where the District 17 enumerator turned back east, they both missed it.

Debra