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Re: Alexander David Kerr
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 20 October 16 05:20 BST (UK) »
Lucy,

I agree...

Most people want to know "Why" they can't find something/someone but in order to get answers....

The 4 W's are important!

Who/what/Where/When  ???

The genealogical equivalent of speculate to accumulate  ;D

Annie

Yup ... that's it , Annie.   ;)

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Re: Alexander David Kerr
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 20 October 16 06:07 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast has an Alex Kerr going to Brisbane aboard the DUKE OF PORTLAND in 1899,born Scotland 1878

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Re: Alexander David Kerr
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 20 October 16 06:23 BST (UK) »
Looking at the Passenger list, that Alex Kerr was a farm Labourer.


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Re: Alexander David Kerr
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 20 October 16 12:55 BST (UK) »

Alexander David Kerr married Alice Catherine o'Shea  at Wellington Registry office on 19 March 1907.

His occupation was fireman. He has the same occupation when registering his child Phyllis May 1909. At other times he is a controller cleaner (1914) and a Labourer in 1935 at the time of his daughter's marriage. At time of death a waterside worker. (1937).

Actually the marriage record - (index listing) - shows he was Alexander KERR (and not Alexander David).  [Who knows, perhaps he added "David" to distinguish himself from others of the same name ?]

On the birth registration listings too - father "Alexander David" is given only for the two children born in 1911 (Grace) and 1912 (Alexander Patrick) ?   Also, on electoral rolls his second name of "David" isn't always listed.  Although the death notice and cemetery record shows Alexander or Alex. David KERR, his headstone records only "Alexander".

He also had a number of occupations over the years.  1911 / 1914  he's listed at Island Bay in Wellington as a "car cleaner" ... 1916-17 (WW1 Army Reserve Roll -- occ: Controller Cleaner) ... 1928 / 1935 (still at Island Bay) he's a storeman.

Can't find him around Wellington before his 1907 marriage ?   Unless he was previously a "seaman" (as earlier speculated). 
From 1896 until 1905-06, there is a "David" KERR on Wellington e/rolls - claiming "Seaman's Electoral right" to vote.   KERR - David - s.s. Wakatu" - Marine fireman ?

Nothing at PapersPast either for a David or Alexander KERR who may have jumped ship ... or been in any sort of trouble which might have caused him to change his identity.   ???

   ~  Lu
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Re: Alexander David Kerr
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 20 October 16 13:16 BST (UK) »

 Thanks everyone for all your help so far. It would be good if we could find that elusive birth cert ( my Scotlandspeople site is causing no end of headaches at the moment) ....
Does anyone have access to the 1901 census for Scotland ? I'm clutching at straws here

Orkrad

Hi orkrad

I see you have placed a query in the last couple of days on a Scotland board for further information on David Alexander (amended to Alexander David) KERR.   [It's probably a sensible place to seek help with Scotland census returns also ... because of the local knowledge factor.   ;) ]

So, for Alexander (David) KERR you have from his (1907) NZ marriage record his birthplace = Edinburgh / father:  Alexander KERR = stone mason  / mother:  Jane nee RENNIE.

I don't have access to Scotland's People - only transcriptions from other resources.

Like others, haven't found a birth record (Scotland) for Alexander KERR c. 1876 :

I did though turn my search towards his supposed father, based on his occupation.
Have located an Alexander KERR, a mason,  (with a 2nd ? wife named as Jane) residing in Edinburgh, who have an adopted son, Alexander born c. 1880 (4 years younger).   I'll add some information which others can "pick over" in order to eliminate or other.

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Re: Alexander David Kerr
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 20 October 16 13:25 BST (UK) »
SCOTLAND
1891 - 8 Hamilton Place - St Cuthberts parish - Edinburgh

Alexander KERR - 52 - (bc 1839) - Born : Dalkeith - Edinburgh
Occupation:   Mason and slater


Jane KERR
- 50 -  wife - b. Edinburgh
Marion KERR - dau - 19 - Employed in Biscuit works - b. Edinburgh

Alexander DOBBIE* - aged 11 - (bc 1880) - Adopted son
    - born Dunbar, Haddingtonshire - East Lothian

John GRAY - 38yrs - own means - Lodger

[Note:  1901 census has him as "DOBIE" - Born "Edinburgh" ]
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Re: Alexander David Kerr
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 20 October 16 13:36 BST (UK) »
SCOTLAND
1901 - 5 Hamilton Place - Edinburgh

Alexander KERR - 62 - occ: Mason and Slater  ... b. Dalkeith

Jane KERR* - 60 - wife

Allison MUIR - 72 - sister-in-law - Annuitant
Alexander DOBIE - 21 years (bc 1880) - Adopted son -  Occ: Slater - born - Edinburgh.
Euphemia LUMSDEN - 65 - Lodger - own means
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[Note:   Pretty sure that Allison MUIR is the sister of Jane KERR - Jane's maiden name seems not to have been "RENNIE" ?   Need to re-check these two.    Jane KERR appears to be the second wife of Alexander KERR - can't see a marriage but earlier census shows his first wife and children.]

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Re: Alexander David Kerr
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 20 October 16 13:43 BST (UK) »
 ... ooops ... on a following page - also at # 5 Hamilton Place, Edinburgh - is Marion, the now married daughter of Alexander KERR.

David Terrance STRANG - 30
Marion STRANG - 27 - wife
Jane C. STRANG - dau - 2 years
Robert D.T. STRANG - son - 6 mths

[Note:   Above family moved to Australia.  Marion Kerr STRANG - Father: Alexander / Mother: Ruth
died at New South Wales - 1941 - Reg. at Broken Hill ]

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Re: Alexander David Kerr
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 20 October 16 13:53 BST (UK) »
SCOTLAND
1881 -  # 13 Market Place - Edinburgh (Civil Parish - St. Cuthberts)

Alexander KERR - 44 - born Dalkeith - Edinburgh
Occupation:   Master Mason and contractor


William KERR - son - 15 - born Edinburgh - scholar
Marion KERR - dau - 10 -  "             "                "
Mrs WARDROPE - 44 - Housekeeper - b. Dalkeith
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1881 - # 12 East Arthur Place - Edinburgh (St. Cuthbert's parish)

James MONCUR - 24 - waiter - born Dundee
Mary MONCUR - 25 - wife - born Stirling
Alexander H. H. DOBIE - aged 1 year - Boarder - born Edinburgh
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^  Is this the child later in the household of Alexander KERR (mason) ???

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