Author Topic: Robert LYONS, (c1816-1886) Drumnakilly & Killyclogher  (Read 2927 times)

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Robert LYONS, (c1816-1886) Drumnakilly & Killyclogher
« on: Thursday 20 October 16 05:22 BST (UK) »
This man seems to have tenanted several farms around the Drumnakilly area. He had two children I'm fairly sure of and 2 more possible children: Possibly married a Mary Johnston/Houston

1. Robert 1842. Married Ellen McFarland at Omagh First Presbyterian on 22 Feb 1872 (Drumragh parish). Had son Robert Andrew on 12 April 1873 Omagh. Mary 15 August 1874
2. Letitia 1844
3. Andrew 29 Dec 1849 (a 20 year old of this name dies in Drumnakilly in 1869) - baptised 11 Jan (must be 1850)
4. Mary 16 Nov 1850 Cloghfin, Edenderry. Baptised 4 Dec 1850. Did she marry Alexander Smith on 8 April 1876 in Drumnakilly church?

Would love to find out who his siblings were? A marriage record? c 1841 Parents?? Any help gratefully received

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Re: Robert LYONS, (c1816-1886) Drumnakilly & Killyclogher
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 20 October 16 08:43 BST (UK) »
Mary 16 Nov 1850 Cloghfin, Edenderry. Baptised 4 Dec 1850. Did she marry Alexander Smith on 8 April 1876 in Drumnakilly church?
A Mary Lyons certainly married an Alexander Smith-
daughter Jane born 1877- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG8B-Q9T
son Christopher Lyons born 1882- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2M4-1NHF

Administration of the estate of Robert Lyons late of Killyclogher County Tyrone Farmer who died 1 October 1886 granted at Londonderry to Robert Lyons junior Farmer.

1. Robert 1842. Married Ellen McFarland at Omagh First Presbyterian on 22 Feb 1872 (Drumragh parish). Had son Robert Andrew on 12 April 1873 Omagh. Mary 15 August 1874
daughter Margaret Matilda (1877)- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGL9-Z8T

Could this be Robert in 1901?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Drumnakilly/Drumnakilly/1748287
Widow Ellen in 1911?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Drumnakilly/Drumnakilly/844758

Back to this question-
Would love to find out who his siblings were? A marriage record? c 1841 Parents??
Best place to start would be church records (if they survive) since Robert Lyons would have married before the start of civil registration. However, it's possible the marriage record might just list date with names of bride and groom.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Robert LYONS, (c1816-1886) Drumnakilly & Killyclogher
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 20 October 16 09:24 BST (UK) »
that's great - thank you.

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Re: Robert LYONS, (c1816-1886) Drumnakilly & Killyclogher
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 29 November 16 13:20 GMT (UK) »
Have discovered that 'My' Robert Lyons died on 11 April 1872 and his wife Mary, two days later and both buried in Drumnakilly.

The Killyclogher Robert of 1886 is a different family.

Mary's surname was either Johnston or Houston (could look similar if people trying to decipher handwriting.

Their children:
Robert Lyons & Mary ?Huston or Johnston
Children:
1. James c 1840. He married Isabella Caldwell on 22 Mar 1866 at Omagh 1st Pres. He died 14 Dec 1878 aged 38 and is buried with his daughter Annie Mayne aged 2 and his wife, Isabella who died 25 Feb 1919, aged 86 and they’re buried in Drumakilly graveyard

2.  Robert 1842. Married Ellen McFarland at Omagh First Presbyterian on 22 Feb 1872 (Drumragh parish). Had son Robert Andrew on 12 April 1873 Omagh. Mary 15 August 1874. Died 10 May 1907 in Drumnakilly (married farmer, 65, pneumonia, son Robert A present at death)

3. Letitia 1844 - married Joseph McIver of Bracky and lived and died there in 1898
4. Andrew 29 Dec 1849 (a 20 year old of this name dies in Drumnakilly in 1869) - baptised 11 Jan (must be 1850). Died 3 Aug 1869 and Drumnakilly stone says it was erected by his parents RL and Mary

5. Mary 16 Nov 1850 Cloghfin, Edenderry. Baptised 4 Dec 1850. Married Alexander Smith on 18 April 1876 in Drumnakilly church? Witnesses: William Smith and Joseph McIver (signed I think) If so daughter, Jane born 30 April 1877 Copney and son Christopher Lyons, 29 Mar 1882 according to his US death record, 29 June 1950 (Illinois, he was a gardener).

But I've love to know where Mary adn Alexander Smith ended up - haven't found them


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Re: Robert LYONS, (c1816-1886) Drumnakilly & Killyclogher
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 November 16 14:07 GMT (UK) »
Margaret Smyth b. 4 November 1892, Copney, parents Alex Smyth and Mary Lyons:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/cert_amends/cert_1892/1870883b.pdf



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Re: Robert LYONS, (c1816-1886) Drumnakilly & Killyclogher
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 29 November 16 15:32 GMT (UK) »

Son Alexander Smith born on 15 August 1882 died in Chester County Hospital Pennsylvania on 8 October 1949, his wife Isabella was informant on the death certificate, which correctly gave his DOB and parents (Alexander Smith senior and Mary Lyons).


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Re: Robert LYONS, (c1816-1886) Drumnakilly & Killyclogher
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 November 16 16:19 GMT (UK) »
I wonder was Alexander b.1895 really meant to be Andrew - see 1911 census return below -  naming two sons Alexander would have been a bit odd (since we now know the first Alexander b. 1882 didn't die early) :

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Loughmacrory/Copney/844854/

Edited to add:  BTW, although the census return for Alexander and family in 1901 seems missing, they do appear on the 1901 'Enumerator's abstract' and 'House and Building Return' for Copney, showing 7 males and 3 females in the household:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001214471/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001214472/


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Re: Robert LYONS, (c1816-1886) Drumnakilly & Killyclogher
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 November 16 16:42 GMT (UK) »

...I wonder was Alexander b.1895 really meant to be Andrew - see 1911 census return below -  naming two sons Alexander would have been a bit odd (since we now know the first Alexander b. 1882 didn't die early):

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Loughmacrory/Copney/844854/

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Have now seen a transcription of the baptismal record and he was indeed baptised as Andrew.