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Re: Alexander Ross, born c1782
« Reply #9 on: Monday 31 October 16 15:31 GMT (UK) »
WOW!
Lots of details that I didn't know there, Millmoor.
I'm still poking around with this chap, but we're filling gaps as we go along.

Cheers!

MT ;)
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Re: Alexander Ross, born c1782
« Reply #10 on: Monday 31 October 16 16:09 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Millmoor on Monday 31 October 16 15:17 GMT (UK)
Illegitimate son. Named after Alexr Garden the child's grandfather.Wit: said Alexr Garden and James Legat Bap Mr Skene  Minister of Banff.
I'm confused now, William ...

William Ross and Isobel Garden were married 2nd Jan 1785 which was well before Alexander's birth in August 1785; how could the birth be illegitimate?
Unless they are calling the CONCEPTION illegitimate.

MT ;)
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DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, York and Scarborough
SUTTON in Wintringham and Scarborough
ROSS in Edinburgh and outlying districts

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Re: Alexander Ross, born c1782
« Reply #11 on: Monday 31 October 16 16:24 GMT (UK) »
Slightly confused by dates now as there is this marriage in Banff (unless they were working to old calendar).

2 Jan 1785 William Ross Banff Serving man to Isabel Garden of Blareshinnach. Bride's father Alexander Garden, Farmer.

Further detail on second transcription has groom abode as Mucky Reatie Boyndie and serv to William Longmure.  Father Alexr Ross.Isobel Gairden. Abode Blearshinnoch.  Father Alex'r Ross farmer Blearshinnoch. Bride/s mother Anne Lovie.

This is as transcribed. I really think you would to look at the original to see if they did actually marry. Was it just a proclamation?

Baptism for Isabel Gairdn has also been transcribed on Freereg Baptism 3 Sep 1763 Abode Calbuchly Father Alexr Gairdn Mother Anne Lovie Named after Isabel Stuart in Tipperty and Isabel Davi*** in Banff Wit James Allen and William Lumisden.

William

Added See you have found "marriage" but note points above.
Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: Alexander Ross, born c1782
« Reply #12 on: Monday 31 October 16 16:28 GMT (UK) »
Interesting that with the baptisms of Alexander, there are two - the second one for 28th Aug 1785 has notes as follows ...

"Natural son named after maternal gr'father. Wit: Alexander Smout Jun'r & sen'r both in Blearshinouch. Paternal gr'parents Alexander Ross labourer Lunkerty King Edward & Elizabeth Gairn. Maternal: Alexander Gairn farmer Blearshinouch & Anne Lovie"

It makes no mention of being illegitimate!

MT ;)
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DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, York and Scarborough
SUTTON in Wintringham and Scarborough
ROSS in Edinburgh and outlying districts

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Re: Alexander Ross, born c1782
« Reply #13 on: Monday 31 October 16 16:35 GMT (UK) »
Natural son means illegitimate!

William
Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: Alexander Ross, born c1782
« Reply #14 on: Monday 31 October 16 16:45 GMT (UK) »
For reference & to avoid duplication:

1871 - Blairshinoch, Banff, Banffshire:
Alexr Ross Head Married 87 (1784) Railway Gate Keeper born Rathven, Banffshire
Jane Ross Wife Married 50 born Fordyce, Banffshire, Scotland
Ann Davidson Step Daughter Unmarried 19 born Fordyce, Banffshire, Scotland

http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/ordnance-survey-name-books/banffshire-os-name-books-1867-1869/banffshire-volume-03/62#zoom=2&lat=623&lon=1515&layers=B

Death of Alexander Ross aged 90, registered in Banff in 1873
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Alexander Ross, born c1782
« Reply #15 on: Monday 31 October 16 16:48 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Millmoor on Monday 31 October 16 16:35 GMT (UK)
Natural son means illegitimate!

William
Well, you live and learn!
I never realised that.
Every day's a learning day ...

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PASHBY in Scarborough, Levisham, and outlying area
SEDMAN in Scarborough, Scalby, Everley and Hackness
BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull
DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, York and Scarborough
SUTTON in Wintringham and Scarborough
ROSS in Edinburgh and outlying districts

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Re: Alexander Ross, born c1782
« Reply #16 on: Monday 31 October 16 16:49 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Jomot on Monday 31 October 16 16:45 GMT (UK)
For reference & to avoid duplication:

1871 - Blairshinoch, Banff, Banffshire:
Alexr Ross Head Married 87 (1784) Railway Gate Keeper born Rathven, Banffshire
Jane Ross Wife Married 50 born Fordyce, Banffshire, Scotland
Ann Davidson Step Daughter Unmarried 19 born Fordyce, Banffshire, Scotland

http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/ordnance-survey-name-books/banffshire-os-name-books-1867-1869/banffshire-volume-03/62#zoom=2&lat=623&lon=1515&layers=B

Death of Alexander Ross aged 90, registered in Banff in 1873
Yep.
Already been pointed in this direction.

The death was new though.

MT ;)
Researching ...
PASHBY in Scarborough, Levisham, and outlying area
SEDMAN in Scarborough, Scalby, Everley and Hackness
BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull
DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, York and Scarborough
SUTTON in Wintringham and Scarborough
ROSS in Edinburgh and outlying districts

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Re: Alexander Ross, born c1782
« Reply #17 on: Monday 31 October 16 16:51 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: MansfieldTerrier on Monday 31 October 16 16:49 GMT (UK)
Death of Alexander Ross aged 90, registered in Banff in 1873
Yep.
Already been pointed in this direction.
The death was new though.
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I know - it was me that pointed you there, and I'd already mentioned the death too  :-X
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.
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