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Probate record Canterbury held at Somerset House,London.
« on: Thursday 27 October 16 17:46 BST (UK) »
Hello all can some one tell me what (als) means.
Record reads Fawconner als Bucke Milburge kingslear southhants dated 1653-4.
After searching high and low I can find no connection to these two people.
I have posted some information about the father of Milburge on Military
if this helps.
Miburge sometimes Milbrowe 1623 Severn stoke Worcestershire.
Also is this name English? never come across it before.
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James William Chappell is now James William Grantham ,Elizebeth Hill Grantham .Lincolnshire.Mary Jane Morgan 1842 born in Overton Flintshire Wales.Ann Morgan 1831 both wives of William Morgan 1829 Worcester.John Dowley 1858 Wellington Salop.Thomas Tole or Toal Selena Mac Masters born in Scotland but lived in county Down NIreland born about 1790.

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Re: Probate record Canterbury held at Somerset.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 October 16 17:56 BST (UK) »
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Probate record Canterbury held at Somerset.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 October 16 12:16 BST (UK) »
Hello KGarrad  I have just read your link feel a bit dim.
When it came to a will then was Milburge married to Fawconer ?.
It also puzzled me that this record says Hampshire, there were Fawconer or Fauconer
families living at Kingsleare or kingsclere.
Why would it have been in Somerset?.
I have picked up a marriage later spelling of names a bit off but it could be
Milberrou? Bach? 22nd Feb 1668 Dymock Glouces- William Burrup.
She would have been in her 40's could this be second marriage?.
Should I post on Hampshire and Somerset to see if any one can come up with anything?.
Thanks.
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James William Chappell is now James William Grantham ,Elizebeth Hill Grantham .Lincolnshire.Mary Jane Morgan 1842 born in Overton Flintshire Wales.Ann Morgan 1831 both wives of William Morgan 1829 Worcester.John Dowley 1858 Wellington Salop.Thomas Tole or Toal Selena Mac Masters born in Scotland but lived in county Down NIreland born about 1790.

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Re: Probate record Canterbury held at Somerset.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 October 16 12:54 BST (UK) »
Your post is very muddled? Leaving me very confused???

What record? You haven't explained what the record is, or where you found it.

There were many reasons that families used an "alias" - and usually followed down the generations.
(Re-read the articles for a better explanation)

There's no mention of Somerset in your original post? Where did this come from?
What is the reference to a will?

Can you please explain what this query is all about?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)


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Re: Probate record Canterbury held at Somerset.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 October 16 14:44 BST (UK) »
Hello KGarrad when I was looking for more information on Milburge Bucke  this
record appeared on Ancestry.
It is as follows The Perogative  Court of Canterbury Preserved in Principal Probate Registry,
Somerset, Vol 111 Folio 196.
It reads as I stated in my post.
When reading the links you gave me the only bit that I think that might fit this record
is when a married woman's alias is her maiden name.
Is that any clearer.
Thanks tobyma123. :)
James William Chappell is now James William Grantham ,Elizebeth Hill Grantham .Lincolnshire.Mary Jane Morgan 1842 born in Overton Flintshire Wales.Ann Morgan 1831 both wives of William Morgan 1829 Worcester.John Dowley 1858 Wellington Salop.Thomas Tole or Toal Selena Mac Masters born in Scotland but lived in county Down NIreland born about 1790.

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Re: Probate record Canterbury held at Somerset.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 October 16 14:50 BST (UK) »
Good old Ancestry ! If you look at the source information below the search form that should read preserved in the Principal Probate Registry , Somerset House, London. Nothing to do with Somerset , the County !
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Re: Probate record Canterbury held at Somerset.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 October 16 15:03 BST (UK) »
Beat me to it, CB53! ;D

The research conducted by Mike Brown (in those 2 documents I linked to) says:

But an interesting factor which emerged, not previously fully appreciated, or understood, is that all of the aliases so far discovered were very localised, either exclusive to one parish, or found only in a compact group of a few neighbouring parishes. This factor points strongly towards the use of many aliases in order to protect the inheritance, or interests, of children in a single generation.

An origin for some aliases emerged during the research, used to identify children of a previous marriage, presumably in order to protect their inheritance.


He also states: These rather strange results call for explanation. And I wish that I could provide one!
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Probate record Canterbury held at Somerset.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 October 16 15:26 BST (UK) »
Hello CB53 thanks for that if you have any more suggestions would be glad to hear them.
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James William Chappell is now James William Grantham ,Elizebeth Hill Grantham .Lincolnshire.Mary Jane Morgan 1842 born in Overton Flintshire Wales.Ann Morgan 1831 both wives of William Morgan 1829 Worcester.John Dowley 1858 Wellington Salop.Thomas Tole or Toal Selena Mac Masters born in Scotland but lived in county Down NIreland born about 1790.

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Re: Probate record Canterbury held at Somerset.
« Reply #8 on: Friday 28 October 16 15:33 BST (UK) »
Hello KGarrad  yes as clear as mud as he says an  explanation would be a good idea.
What would you suggest now as a next step?.
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James William Chappell is now James William Grantham ,Elizebeth Hill Grantham .Lincolnshire.Mary Jane Morgan 1842 born in Overton Flintshire Wales.Ann Morgan 1831 both wives of William Morgan 1829 Worcester.John Dowley 1858 Wellington Salop.Thomas Tole or Toal Selena Mac Masters born in Scotland but lived in county Down NIreland born about 1790.