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Offline ShaunJ

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Re: George Fisher, Poulterer of Duke Street, St. James.
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 30 October 16 10:43 GMT (UK) »
1851 census

Upper Heath, Hampstead

Albion Cottage

George Fisher widower 64 formerly dealer in poultry & game b. London
Hannah Heather servant  50  Berkshire
Henry Fisher son 27 "no business" London
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Re: George Fisher, Poulterer of Duke Street, St. James.
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 30 October 16 10:47 GMT (UK) »
Thanks ShaunJ

Didn't have Geo on the 1851 either.  I have John though so I can save you a search.

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Re: George Fisher, Poulterer of Duke Street, St. James.
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 30 October 16 10:58 GMT (UK) »
John's siblings baptised at St James':

Sarah Anne born 28 May 1809 bap 25 Jun 1809
Emma #1 born 07 Dec 1811 bap 3 Jan 1812
Mercy born 3 Nov 1813 bap 26 Nov 1813
George born 10 Jul 1814 bap 6 Aug 1815
Emma #2 born 19 Nov 1819 bap 19 Dec 1819
Henry born 5 Aug 1821 bap 2 Sep 1821
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Re: George Fisher, Poulterer of Duke Street, St. James.
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 30 October 16 11:12 GMT (UK) »

Marriage at St Lawrence in Thanet, Kent on 11 Aug 1808:

George Fisher, of St James's Westminster, batchelor
Sarah Friend, spinster and a minor with consent of her father
By license

Witnesses George Friend, Daniel Friend
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Re: George Fisher, Poulterer of Duke Street, St. James.
« Reply #13 on: Monday 31 October 16 04:37 GMT (UK) »
John Fisher baptism 25 January 1818 at St James Westminster:

Born 29 December 1817, father George, poulterer, mother Sarah, abode Piccadilly.
Pigot's 1825/6 London Directory has under Poulterers: Fisher Geo, 164 Piccadilly.
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Re: George Fisher, Poulterer of Duke Street, St. James.
« Reply #14 on: Monday 31 October 16 09:38 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the added in for ShaunJ.  Excellent.

Chris... I also found Geo Fisher, Poulterer at St James Market, 1811.

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Re: George Fisher, Poulterer of Duke Street, St. James.
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 01 November 16 03:33 GMT (UK) »
Hello ShaunJ

I'm wondering.... Is there any link between George Fisher, Poulterer of 23 Duke St St. James and Charles Fisher, gun Maker of 8 Princes St Leicester Square.  A John Fisher, Sword maker was at 37 Duke St St. James.

George's 1855 will states he had several properties along Duke St St. James but not 37.

I'm thinking George and Charles may be brothers and that John Fisher, Sword maker, may be Charles' son!

The reason I think there may be a link, other than the Duke St St. James co incidence, is George's son, John Fisher, Poulterer married Emma Mortimer who was the daughter of Thomas Jackson Mortimer the extremely successful Gun Maker and actually the Kings gun maker!

tia, bitzar.

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CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
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SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
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Re: George Fisher, Poulterer of Duke Street, St. James.
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 01 November 16 09:22 GMT (UK) »
George Fisher born in London, Charles Fisher was born Staffordshire per the 1851 census.

Number 37 Duke Street was an army clothier & tailoring establishment. Proprietor James Fisher in the 1830's ( see https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?div=t18340102-8 ). Son Henry Holmes Fisher went bankrupt in the 1840's per the Gazette. The business seems to have been taken over by Richard Ponder. Listed as Ponder & Fisher in the 1841 Directory. Also known as Fisher & Ponder. Richard Ponder, tailor listed in Duke Street in the 1841 census. Richard Ponder, Army Clothier in 1851. They certainly sold swords.

I haven't found a John Fisher, sword maker - where did that reference come from?
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Re: George Fisher, Poulterer of Duke Street, St. James.
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 03 November 16 06:29 GMT (UK) »
ShaunJ

Sorry, it might gave to wait a couple of weeks before I can remember the ref. I'm on hols now.

Thanks again.

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ROBERTS / ROBERT / ROBERTSON (Paternal) - Dunbartonshire/Stirlingshire, Scotland
NEWEY - Leicestershire, England
FITZGERALD - Co. Cork - Ireland
HOWLETT - Suffolk, England
PHILMORE - Wiltshire, England
CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
NICHOLLS - Cornwall - England
SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
PRITCHARD - Salop, England
ROBERTS (Maternal) - Surrey, England