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birthplace. .. Nr Singapore settlement?
« on: Wednesday 02 November 16 15:47 GMT (UK) »
Hello all, I've recently started to trace my paternal grandmothers side of the family and found a record in the 1911 census with my great grandfather as 'head' of the family.. as far as I knew he was born in Bradford, a small district of Manchester , however his birthplace is stated as 'nr settlement, singapore' in 1880... wondering if anyone had a clue what the nr represents and what circumstance might lead him to be born there in this time period as I've got records of his own father being born in manchester as well

I'd really appreciate any input or advice, thanks to all

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Re: birthplace. .. Nr Singapore settlement?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 November 16 16:12 GMT (UK) »
nr usually means near. Does the birthplace of Singapore appear in any other census records?

Are you willing to share his name so us Rootschatters can have a look?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: birthplace. .. Nr Singapore settlement?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 November 16 16:17 GMT (UK) »
Are you sure it says Nr and not Sts (Straits)   :-\
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Re: birthplace. .. Nr Singapore settlement?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 November 16 16:25 GMT (UK) »
His name is Jonathan broadhurst,   but I can't find any other reference to Singapore so it's really thrown me

 I only just found out that his son Jonathan junior, my grandmothers brother had the middle name of 'cleveland' .. so there are more questions than answers with him at the minute


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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 November 16 16:28 GMT (UK) »
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Re: birthplace. .. Nr Singapore settlement?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 November 16 16:35 GMT (UK) »
Yes,  that's him!

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Re: birthplace. .. Nr Singapore settlement?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 November 16 16:37 GMT (UK) »
Jonathan senior also appears to have had the Cleveland middle name, according to the free 1911 index.

Birthplace is Singapore Sts Settlements (as previously suggested - short for Straits Settlements).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: birthplace. .. Nr Singapore settlement?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 02 November 16 16:41 GMT (UK) »
I'm not sure I've heard of Singapore straits, what does that refer to? 

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Re: birthplace. .. Nr Singapore settlement?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 02 November 16 16:44 GMT (UK) »
The Straits Settlements at the relevant time were Singapore, Malacca, Dinding & Penang - held as a combined Crown Colony from 1867 until the 1940s.

The 1911 entry you've found suggests that, of the four settlements, he was born in Singapore.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)