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Offline Catherine Wait

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Birth Cert Bertha McFadden born 1885 Newport
« on: Monday 07 November 16 17:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi, if anyone could please help me - I'm looking for information about Ernest Frederick McFadden (known as Frederick) born 3/11/1862 Wollongong, NSW, Australia died 30/9/1907 Durban, South Africa.  In the death notice it states that he was previously married about 1880 but name unknown, one daughter by first marriage Bertha Newport England.  I have copies of references from captain's that he served under, one was from the master of S.S. Oakby dated 14/3/1898 with address Newport Mon.  The next positive sighting that I have for Frederick is 10/10/1900 when me marries Wilhelmina Orm in Durban, South Africa. 
I found the above Bertha McFadden in 1891 and 1901 census, but wonder if her father's name might be on a birth cert?

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Re: Birth Cert Bertha McFadden born 1885 Newport
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 November 16 17:23 GMT (UK) »
Hopefully birth cert will confirm fathers name and give you mother's name and maiden name

BIrth
Jul/Aug/Sep 1884
Newport
Ref 11a 204
Bertha Louisa McFedden

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Birth Cert Bertha McFadden born 1885 Newport
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 November 16 17:25 GMT (UK) »
AND mother's maiden name was Durnall

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Re: Birth Cert Bertha McFadden born 1885 Newport
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 November 16 17:29 GMT (UK) »
1901 she appears to be with mother , now Eleanor now Collier and step dad Thomas Collier.

But Dad is still alive - so unless there was a divorce ....  unless Eleanor is not actually married to Thomas of course.

But you say Dad remarries in 1900? So there must have been a divorce, or that would have been bigamous surely?  That is - IF Eleanor is actually her mum and the previous wife of Ernest Fred.  I suppose it could be that Thomas Collier was prev married to Mrs ex-McFaddan, and she had died and he had remarried to this Eleanor. Bertha would still be his step dtr, which is what it says on the census.

Her birth cert should make it all become clearer!
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Re: Birth Cert Bertha McFadden born 1885 Newport
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 November 16 17:30 GMT (UK) »
AND mother's maiden name was Durnall

Well done - I keep forgetting we can look that up now!!! 
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Birth Cert Bertha McFadden born 1885 Newport
« Reply #5 on: Monday 07 November 16 17:32 GMT (UK) »
MARRIAGE

Jul/Aug/Sep 1882
Newport
Ref 11a 273

Eleanor Jane Durnall / Frederick McFedden
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Birth Cert Bertha McFadden born 1885 Newport
« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 November 16 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Well done lizdb - I was about to post that I couldn't find a marriage  :o :o

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Re: Birth Cert Bertha McFadden born 1885 Newport
« Reply #7 on: Monday 07 November 16 17:37 GMT (UK) »
So, unless there are two Eleanors, or a divorce, then Fred wasn't actually free to marry Wilhelmina in 1900 .....
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
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Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Birth Cert Bertha McFadden born 1885 Newport
« Reply #8 on: Monday 07 November 16 17:40 GMT (UK) »
Only one Eleanor it seems , and unless there was a divorce she too commits bigamy:

Marriage
Jul/Aug/Sep 1894
Newport
11a 364
Eleanor Jane Durnall / Thomas Collier
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk