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PORTIONERS any idea?
« on: Friday 11 November 16 10:17 GMT (UK) »
Has anyone come across this before and knows what it means?
Please help.
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Re: PORTIONERS any idea?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 November 16 10:19 GMT (UK) »
What is the context please?
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Re: PORTIONERS any idea?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 November 16 10:22 GMT (UK) »
It has something to do with land or property Scouseboy.
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Re: PORTIONERS any idea?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 November 16 10:24 GMT (UK) »
According to dictionary of Scots language. - The proprietor of a small estate or piece of land resulting from the division of an original forty-merk land among co-heirs or otherwise, a small land-owner

http://www.dsl.ac.uk/entry/snd/portioner

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Re: PORTIONERS any idea?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 November 16 10:25 GMT (UK) »
An heir to part or portion of a heritable estate
http://www.dsl.ac.uk/entry/snd/portioner

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Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: PORTIONERS any idea?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 November 16 10:40 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all,
Does anyone know how the portioners got the land in the first place,did they buy it from a local authority,or was the land given to them by some other means?
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Re: PORTIONERS any idea?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 November 16 10:55 GMT (UK) »
hereditary  ........... ???

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Re: PORTIONERS any idea?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 November 16 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Portioners existed long before local authorities. Land was leased from [fixed term rental] or feued from [bought but with perpetual conditions, including payment of a feu duty and reversion to the estate of conditions were not adhered to] or bought from [no conditions] the local estate. Feus and outright purchases [dispositions] became heritable property - ie able to be left in a will.  If the property was left to several people in shares [equal or not] they became 'heirs portioners'

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Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON