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Re: Ellen Rose or Barnes born abt 1853 Bolton le Moors
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 03 June 17 19:22 BST (UK) »
I'm not having any luck finding Joseph in 1841, census have him born Bunbrey (various spellings) Cheshire between 1827 and 1831, I have found a Peter Barnes in Bunbury in 1841 but no Joseph with him

Lane End, Bunbury, Nantwich, Cheshire, England
Peter   Barnes   Male   35      
Peter   Barnes   Male   5      
Hannah   Barnes   Female   30   
Ellen   Barnes   Female   7      
Thomas   Barnes   Male   4      
John   Barnes   Male   2   
Martha   Barnes   Female   0   
Boliver - Selattyn/St. Martins
Hinton - Whitchurch/Ightfield
Parry - Hanmer/Bronington
Clarke - Barnsley/Lancaster
Clegg - Rochdale/Lancaster
Owens - Llansannan
Lee - Malpas
Chaloner - Holt/Chester
Airey - Westmorland
Sadler - Shropshire
Gee - Holt
Benbow - Shropshire

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Re: Ellen Rose or Barnes born abt 1853 Bolton le Moors
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 03 June 17 19:55 BST (UK) »
FreeBMD has deaths for John Rose in Preston in 1848 and 1850.

Aged 10 and 77 respectively, so not sarah's first husband

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Re: Ellen Rose or Barnes born abt 1853 Bolton le Moors
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 04 June 17 16:49 BST (UK) »
could this be Joseph in 1841 - a manservant living in Bunbury

   
Richard   Johnson   Male   35   1806   Cheshire, England   
Alice   Johnson   Female   25   1816   Cheshire, England   
Sarah   Blanthorn   Female   15   1826   Cheshire, England   
Joseph   Barnes   Male   15   1826   Cheshire, England


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Re: Ellen Rose or Barnes born abt 1853 Bolton le Moors
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 04 June 17 17:13 BST (UK) »
As Sarah remarried In Barnsley could this be John's death (which could explain why Sarah did not marry Joseph until 1859)

Deaths Sep 1856   (>99%)
ROSE    John        Barnsley    9c   81 age 38

I know on that 1841 census it says he was 13 but if that was correct he was born c 1828 which does not fit with being 'of full age' in 1847.  But it does fit with the baptism in 1828 with sister Eleanor in 1830

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Re: Ellen Rose or Barnes born abt 1853 Bolton le Moors
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 04 June 17 18:43 BST (UK) »
As Sarah remarried In Barnsley could this be John's death (which could explain why Sarah did not marry Joseph until 1859)

Deaths Sep 1856   (>99%)
ROSE    John        Barnsley    9c   81 age 38

I know on that 1841 census it says he was 13 but if that was correct he was born c 1828 which does not fit with being 'of full age' in 1847.  But it does fit with the baptism in 1828 with sister Eleanor in 1830

This one was killed in a pit accident at Upper Elsecar 2nd May 1856

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Re: Ellen Rose or Barnes born abt 1853 Bolton le Moors
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 04 June 17 18:53 BST (UK) »
I was rather clutching at straws trying to make it fit!

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Re: Ellen Rose or Barnes born abt 1853 Bolton le Moors
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 06 June 17 21:08 BST (UK) »
could this be Joseph in 1841 - a manservant living in Bunbury

   
Richard   Johnson   Male   35   1806   Cheshire, England   
Alice   Johnson   Female   25   1816   Cheshire, England   
Sarah   Blanthorn   Female   15   1826   Cheshire, England   
Joseph   Barnes   Male   15   1826   Cheshire, England

sorry not to reply earlier, that could be him as the area is right, his year of birth does vary on each census from 1827 to 1831
Boliver - Selattyn/St. Martins
Hinton - Whitchurch/Ightfield
Parry - Hanmer/Bronington
Clarke - Barnsley/Lancaster
Clegg - Rochdale/Lancaster
Owens - Llansannan
Lee - Malpas
Chaloner - Holt/Chester
Airey - Westmorland
Sadler - Shropshire
Gee - Holt
Benbow - Shropshire

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Re: Ellen Rose or Barnes born abt 1853 Bolton le Moors
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 19 December 21 21:16 GMT (UK) »
As Sarah remarried In Barnsley could this be John's death (which could explain why Sarah did not marry Joseph until 1859)

Deaths Sep 1856   (>99%)
ROSE    John        Barnsley    9c   81 age 38

I know on that 1841 census it says he was 13 but if that was correct he was born c 1828 which does not fit with being 'of full age' in 1847.  But it does fit with the baptism in 1828 with sister Eleanor in 1830

This one was killed in a pit accident at Upper Elsecar 2nd May 1856
a long time ago but I don't remember reading this at the time sorry
how did you find out how he was killed?
Boliver - Selattyn/St. Martins
Hinton - Whitchurch/Ightfield
Parry - Hanmer/Bronington
Clarke - Barnsley/Lancaster
Clegg - Rochdale/Lancaster
Owens - Llansannan
Lee - Malpas
Chaloner - Holt/Chester
Airey - Westmorland
Sadler - Shropshire
Gee - Holt
Benbow - Shropshire