Author Topic: Ellen Rose or Barnes born abt 1853 Bolton le Moors  (Read 2567 times)

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Re: Ellen Rose or Barnes born abt 1853 Bolton le Moors
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 19 November 16 23:11 GMT (UK) »
it looks like the above are a different family?
Boliver - Selattyn/St. Martins
Hinton - Whitchurch/Ightfield
Parry - Hanmer/Bronington
Clarke - Barnsley/Lancaster
Clegg - Rochdale/Lancaster
Owens - Llansannan
Lee - Malpas
Chaloner - Holt/Chester
Airey - Westmorland
Sadler - Shropshire
Gee - Holt
Benbow - Shropshire

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Re: Ellen Rose or Barnes born abt 1853 Bolton le Moors
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 19 November 16 23:42 GMT (UK) »
FreeBMD has deaths for John Rose in Preston in 1848 and 1850.

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Re: Ellen Rose or Barnes born abt 1853 Bolton le Moors
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 03 June 17 12:08 BST (UK) »
I'm reviving this thread to try again to get to the bottom of who is Ellen's father, I've received her birth cert 1852 which I've attached, father named as Joseph Barnes and mother Sarah Barnes formerly Airey (Joseph and Sarah didn't actually marry until 1859

if Sarah was pregnant when she started seeing Joseph then Ellen's father would probably be John Rose even if Joseph was on the birth cert, if I can find Sarah with Joseph before that then her father would be Joseph. I've found a possible for Joseph in 1851 but he's a servant and no sign of Sarah.
Boliver - Selattyn/St. Martins
Hinton - Whitchurch/Ightfield
Parry - Hanmer/Bronington
Clarke - Barnsley/Lancaster
Clegg - Rochdale/Lancaster
Owens - Llansannan
Lee - Malpas
Chaloner - Holt/Chester
Airey - Westmorland
Sadler - Shropshire
Gee - Holt
Benbow - Shropshire


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Re: Ellen Rose or Barnes born abt 1853 Bolton le Moors
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 03 June 17 12:38 BST (UK) »
1841
Lower Holker, Flookburgh
Myles Rose   50
Ellen Rose   35
John Rose   13
Ellen Rose   10

HO 107/528/6/31/9

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Re: Ellen Rose or Barnes born abt 1853 Bolton le Moors
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 03 June 17 18:07 BST (UK) »
thank you Heather  :)
that's John Rose in 1841, I'm now thinking Joseph Barnes may be my 3rd Gt Grandfather and not John Rose, his father's name was Peter and census say he was born in Cheshire, I can't find them on the 1841 census or find Sarah in 1851
Boliver - Selattyn/St. Martins
Hinton - Whitchurch/Ightfield
Parry - Hanmer/Bronington
Clarke - Barnsley/Lancaster
Clegg - Rochdale/Lancaster
Owens - Llansannan
Lee - Malpas
Chaloner - Holt/Chester
Airey - Westmorland
Sadler - Shropshire
Gee - Holt
Benbow - Shropshire

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Re: Ellen Rose or Barnes born abt 1853 Bolton le Moors
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 03 June 17 18:34 BST (UK) »
Sarah's birth

Baptism: 17 Oct 1830 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Sarah Airey - Dau of Joseph Airey & Agnes
    Born: 16 Sep 1830
    Abode: Skerton
    Occupation: Sawyer

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Re: Ellen Rose or Barnes born abt 1853 Bolton le Moors
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 03 June 17 18:41 BST (UK) »
for info Sarah in 1841

Name   Age
Joseph Lerey   40 (Airey)
Agnes Lerey   40
Richard Lerey   20
Robert Lerey   15
Sarah Lerey   10
Isabella Lerey   7
Wiliam Lerey   5
Ellen Lerey   1

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Re: Ellen Rose or Barnes born abt 1853 Bolton le Moors
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 03 June 17 18:55 BST (UK) »
and 1851 12 Cros St, Skerton HO107/2272 folio 67 pg 15
Joseph Arow head mar 55 sawyer b. Kendal, Westmoreland
Agness wife 51 b. Kendal
Isabelow dau 17 cotton weaver
William son 14
Ellen dau 11
John son 9
Barbara Clayton 84 lodger parish relief b. Kendal (Barbara & Robert Clayton were in household in 1841 as well & could be the parents of Agnes)
children all born Skerton
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Ellen Rose or Barnes born abt 1853 Bolton le Moors
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 03 June 17 19:15 BST (UK) »
and 1851 12 Cros St, Skerton HO107/2272 folio 67 pg 15
Joseph Arow head mar 55 sawyer b. Kendal, Westmoreland
Agness wife 51 b. Kendal
Isabelow dau 17 cotton weaver
William son 14
Ellen dau 11
John son 9
Barbara Clayton 84 lodger parish relief b. Kendal (Barbara & Robert Clayton were in household in 1841 as well & could be the parents of Agnes)
children all born Skerton

yes they were the parents of Agnes
Boliver - Selattyn/St. Martins
Hinton - Whitchurch/Ightfield
Parry - Hanmer/Bronington
Clarke - Barnsley/Lancaster
Clegg - Rochdale/Lancaster
Owens - Llansannan
Lee - Malpas
Chaloner - Holt/Chester
Airey - Westmorland
Sadler - Shropshire
Gee - Holt
Benbow - Shropshire