Help finding ancestors of Timothy Robert Lloyd

[anglish]

Can anyone help me with the following?
Irish census 1911 has Mary Lloyd (age 44) living in a house in Denzille st., Dublin, together with her daughter Annie (age 12) and her son, Timothy (age 6). Mary was born Co. Tipperary and both the children were born in England. Image is indistinct but more precise place of birth for Annie could be Cheshire and for Timothy, Liverpool. Mary has stated that she is widowed but was married 14 years earlier. She has also declared 4 children born with three living.
Timothy married Mary Amelia McElroy in Dublin 1927 and gave his full name as Timothy Robert Lloyd. His father’s name as stated on the marriage cert is also Timothy Robert Lloyd.
Despite extensive effort, have so far been unable to take my research back further. I cannot find the family on the 1901 census, either in Ireland or the UK. I cannot find the marriage of the elder Timothy Robert to Mary, nor can I find a record of the childrens’ births.

Additionally, the whereabouts of Mary’s third surviving child in 1911 is a mystery. If her marriage took place c.1897, that child could not have been older than 14 in 1911.

Am carrying out this research as a surprise birthday present for a friend and would love to expand the information on the Lloyd side of his family. If anyone could help I would be really grateful.

[avm228]

Welcome

Have you seen that there is a birth registration for a Timothy Lloyd, Sep qtr 1905 Liverpool?

GRO Online shows his mother's maiden name as Fitzgerald.

[anglish]

Many thanks for such a quick reply. Had spotted the entry but have delayed getting a copy of the birth cert because I was still unable to find the family in 1901. Cannot find a Mary Lloyd b.Ireland anywhere who fits. If all else fails, will likely have to assume the Liverpool birth entry is what I am looking for and cough up some cash for the cert.

[avm228]

Othe Lloyd/Fitzgerald birth registrations:

William Edward Lloyd, Dec qtr 1899 Liverpool (poss death reg, Jun qtr 1900 Liverpool aged 0)
Catherine Lloyd, Sep qtr 1901 Liverpool

[jim1]

ditto above + Elizabeth 1905 L'pool & Mary 1903 L'pool.
Also Thomas 1907 L'pool.
another William 1909 L'pool.

[anglish]

Folks. Many thanks for all the info. To be honest, had forgotten that GRO now offered visibility on indexed entries with mother's maiden name included. Can see those entries you mention and as Fitzgerald is a strong Irish surname, this could be the family I am looking for. Would really like to find an entry for Annie (born c.1899) so, now that you have reminded me about the GRO resources, will have a fresh look at that.

[avm228]

Some or all of the Lloyd/Fitzgerald children may be offspring of William Lloyd and Mary Ellen Fitzgerald, who married in Liverpool (register office or nonconformist e.g. Catholic) in 1898.

There is a couple in Liverpool in 1901 who may be them, no children.  Mary E is only 23 and born Liverpool so does not look a match for your Mary.

[anglish]

Entry in Irish 1911 census record gives family's religion as Church of Ireland so am assuming that is correct.

[avm228]

Yes, it looks as though there may have been more than one Lloyd/Fitzgerald couple having children in Liverpool at the same time - see the close but not simultaneous birth registrations in 1905:

Elizabeth Lloyd Sep qtr 1905 8b 99
Timothy Lloyd Sep qtr 1905 8b 102