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Offline Siouxann

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Richard LAND Family
« on: Monday 28 November 16 04:57 GMT (UK) »
Richard Land was born abt 1755 Birmingham, he married Ann Brown and they had 3 children. 2 died young and son Richard Land was born 1785, marrying Elizabeth Smith, listed as a Widower, in 1809, Richard was also  listed as a Widower on the Marriage Banns, am unable to find their first marriages (he must have been quite young) and Elizabeth 10 years older than Richard. Richard and Elizabeth had 2 sons Edward born 1816 and Henry born 1817. Both  born Oldbury, Both Richards' and family  all lived around the St George Birmingham, Oldbury, and nearby counties.

On 15 July 1818 Richard aged 33 yrs was in Court at Stafford for Gd Larceny, I have the FindMY Past info, which is the same as Ancestry, he was given 7 years and served from 18 August 1818 to April 1823 on the HULK Bellephon and then from APril 1823 on the Retribution.. Conviction date at Stafford 15 July 1818

Any help with information on Richard Land's birth 1755 abt
and Richard and Elizabeth Land's  first marriages before 1809.
And how I could get more information re Richard's time on the Prison Hulks at Woolwich and where would I look for perhaps a newspaper article re his Conviction. would be very much appreciated.

Thank you
Sue
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Re: Richard LAND Family
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 November 16 06:42 GMT (UK) »
Is the Richard Land born about 1855 Birmingham a grandson of the Richard Land born 1785, or someone else?

How did you arrive at him?

Or do you mean 1755 (although you have put 1855 twice) and he was Richard's (born 1785)  Father?

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Re: Richard LAND Family
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 November 16 06:51 GMT (UK) »
So Sorry

should be 1755 Richard Land the father
                1785 Richard Land the son.

will correct

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Re: Richard LAND Family
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 November 16 06:53 GMT (UK) »
Now correct
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Re: Richard LAND Family
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 November 16 13:07 GMT (UK) »
Hello
This looks like Richard's first family.
Richard Land bapt Oldbury 6.10.1805
John and Joseph 29.5.1808 Oldbury
John was buried 9.10.1808

All with wife Martha Steventon whom he married at Tipton St Martins just up the road 20.5.1804 .
She was buried at Oldbury 5.3.1809.
which would fit nicely with that marriage 22nd May 1809.

There is a third son with Elizabeth -William born 18.3.1811 bapt 30th June.
The baptism for Edward 22.3.1818 gives his father's job as Tinner.

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Re: Richard LAND Family
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 November 16 18:46 GMT (UK) »
Hello
and thank you , all the above is new to me and very exciting, I knew Richard had a first marriage but never found the details and always wondered if there was more than 2 children to his second marriage as there was such a gap from marrying Elizabeth to their first child at the time...
Thanks you
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Re: Richard LAND Family
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 December 16 15:24 GMT (UK) »
Only one Staffordshire newspaper available for 1818 in the British Newspaper Archive. In the Staffordshire Advertisers (printed only on Saturdays at this time) for Saturday 18th July 1818, p.4, columna 1-2, there is a report from the Staffordshire Translation Sessions. After a lengthy verbatim report of the opening address by the Chairman, the 110 crimes dealt with by the magistrates are given a brief mention. There is only one that might be Richard Land, if you accept that the surname given is a misprint:

Richard Lawd, for stealing iron pots and tin metal, to be transported for 7 years.

If this is Richard Land, then presumably the sentence was commuted to imprisonment in the hulks.

Hope this helps

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Re: Richard LAND Family
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 December 16 19:32 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much - and his name was Land or Lawd but when reading the entry on the Hulk it is clearly LAND, so thank for doing all that research, very much appreciated, slowly building up my Tree and the hard life it was in those days..
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