Which Hannah Nash?

[tjh1989]

Hi all

I am interested in a Hannah Nash (born c. 1798) in Hatfield, Hertfordshire. The following 1851 census shows her living with her husband John Goodman (married 1819):

Household schedule number 216
Piece   1498
Folio   583
Page number   52

A search of the birth records (5 years either way of 1798 and in Hertfordshire) results in two viable persons:

• A Hannah Nash, daughter of Samuel and Hannah, born in 1799 in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire (FHL Film Number: 0566025 (RG4 661), 0566028 (RG4 661, 1647))
• A Hannah Nash, daughter of William and Frances, baptised in 1797 in Tring, Hertfordshire (FHL Film Number:91766)

I'm not certain which is the right Hannah Nash. Both were born/baptised in places about the same distance from Hatfield, Hertfordshire (listed as her place of birth on all of her census records).  The marriage was before compulsory registration so unfortunately I can't see who her parents were. Any thoughts on which entry is correct (or none!) much appreciated.

As an aside, what do these FHL numbers refer to? Is there further information I can obtain and which is not online?

Many thanks

Tom

[lizdb]

If Nash is her married name ("Living with husband John Nash") then her birth wont be in the name of Nash, it will be in her maiden name.  What is that from the 1819 marriage?

Or is it case of a Hannah Nash marrying a John Nash?

[tjh1989]

If Nash is her married name ("Living with husband John Nash") then her birth wont be in the name of Nash, it will be in her maiden name.  What is that form 1819 marriage?

Or is it case of a Hannah Nash marrying a John Nash?

Eeek, meant to say John Goodman! Now corrected.

[Jomot]

RG4/663 is the National Archives reference.  If you type this into their website you will see it relates to relates to Hemel Hempstead, Popes Lane (Baptist)

The FHL Numbers are the Familysearch film numbers, if you put them into the box for Film/Fische Number on the link below, you will get a fuller description of what is actually on the film: https://familysearch.org/catalog/search

For the first one you list I entered 0566025 which brought up details of several different non-conformist churches, from which I selected item 23-24, Baptist Church (Hemel-Hempstead, Hertfordshire) Births and burials, 1785-1827.  This has been filmed, and the relevant baptism is here (bottom entry):  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01iya/

[lizdb]

If it were me, I wouldn't rush to claim either of these as "my" Hannah. If she consistently said she was born Hatfield I would be wanting to check Hatfield PRs first before looking further afield.  No idea if they at online, but will be available to search at the Relevant Record Office. I don't know where that is for Hertfordshire but I'm sure a google would locate it.

Do the witnesses on the marriage help?  Remember if one is a sister who has already married then the surname wont be immediately recognisable without further research.

[josey]

What were the names of Hannah & John's children?  Many, but not all, couples followed a naming pattern & early children may have been named after their parents. So is there a Samuel, William or a Frances?

Josey

[lizdb]

I was just going to make that point too Josey!!

Also  - did either William or Francis (or any other likely Nash's in the area) make a Will?  Wills can be great at finding the surnames of married daughters. Or in this case the reverse, you know the surname, you just want the Will of the Dad who mentions his daughter Hannah now the wife of John Goodman!

[tjh1989]

If it were me, I wouldn't rush to claim either of these as "my" Hannah. If she consistently said she was born Hatfield I would be wanting to check Hatfield PRs first before looking further afield.  No idea if they at online, but will be available to search at the Relevant Record Office. I don't know where that is for Hertfordshire but I'm sure a google would locate it.

Do the witnesses on the marriage help?  Remember if one is a sister who has already married then the surname wont be immediately recognisable without further research.

Hi

Unfortunately the marriage record is text only.on ancestry so can't see the witnesses.

I admit to being very confused about what is where - what is not available online? And does ancestry not have records which other sites do?

If there is a good guide to all of this it would be much appreciated. I've read some of the introductory posts here but they don't answer these questions.

[tjh1989]

What were the names of Hannah & John's children?  Many, but not all, couples followed a naming pattern & early children may have been named after their parents. So is there a Samuel, William or a Frances?

Josey

Hi

Good idea. None of the children were either a Samuel or a Frances.