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Spires family
« on: Sunday 04 December 16 14:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I am trying to find some information on Daniel Spires Turner, my wife's grandfather.
He was, we think married to Elizabeth Turner from Middlesbrough (b1908-d1990)
They had a son Arthur Edward Spires Turner (b1931-d1975) living in stockton.
In 1956 they were living at 6 Rampside Avenue Stockton

The only Daniel Spires I can find is from West Ham in 1903, although a family of Spires was living in Guisborough around the correct birth time but no Daniel..
Hope someone can help.
Abbott Askew Bower Dunn English Heaton Henderson Newman Saville Teate Tighe Trenholme Turner Williamson

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Re: Spires family
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 December 16 15:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi - this is a bit confusing!  Was he Daniel Spires or Daniel Spires Turner?

I see that the mother's maiden name on Arthur's birth registration was Turner.  The order of Arthur's names on the birth registration suggests his parents may not have been married.  Have you found a marriage for them? I haven't been able to.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Spires family
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 December 16 15:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi

There is no marriage between a Daniel Spires/Elizabeth Turner pre-1931

There is no birth for a Daniel Spires Turner

When did Daniel die?
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Re: Spires family
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 December 16 15:07 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked at the 1939 Register for Elizabeth's marital status then?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Spires family
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 December 16 15:11 GMT (UK) »
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Elizabeth Turner from Middlesbrough (b1908-d1990)

There is no 1990 death for an Elizabeth Turner b 1908
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Re: Spires family
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 December 16 15:18 GMT (UK) »
They had a son Arthur Edward Spires Turner (b1931-d1975) living in stockton.

Arthur's death? -

Arthur Edward S Turner
Birth Date - 9 Aug 1931
Date of Registration - Dec 1977
Registration district - Cleveland
Vol 3 Page 2402

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Re: Spires family
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 December 16 15:20 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for looking
Yes Elizabeth Turner is listed on 1911 census at 49 Bridge street West in Middlesbrough.
We were told she died at North Tees Hospital in 1990
She was married 3 times I think she was called Elizabeth Hodgkins then.
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Re: Spires family
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 December 16 15:23 GMT (UK) »
From the info you have given - it sounds as though Arthur was illegitimate.  Did he name a father on his marriage cert?

Does his birth cert show a fathers name?
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Re: Spires family
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 December 16 15:26 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth Hodgkins age 82 born 19 March 1908 Oct 1990 Central Cleveland Vol   3 Page 2079

What were the names of her other husbands?
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