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Offline Vicki Cooper

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Gilmore/Gillmore Family Ireland
« on: Monday 05 December 16 03:25 GMT (UK) »
Hello, I am new to Rootschat.  I would like to ask if anyone can help me access my Gilmore/Gillmore family who were gentry in Co. Antrim, n. Ireland. They are not listed in Burkes Peerage for Ireland but are in Irish directories as gentry. They lived at Boghead House, Boghead which is near Muckamore.  Ireland reaching out has suggested I search Antrim parish records, Connor diocese mic583/11-12, mic 1/328, cr/1/77; d1200/4 mic1/328 or Muckamore mic 583/5 t679/55-56 for the family but they are only on microfilm at the public records office in Belfast and I live in Australia.  They are not on line. My 3 x gt grandfather was Colonel Joseph Albert Gillmore, born c 1785 a professional soldier in the British army and I can find a lot on him re his career but he returned to Boghead House when he retired in 1849 and died there in 1863 & buried Green Island, Carnmoney. His wife returned to her home in UK. I suspect his father may have been John Gilmore, a lawyer who also lived at Boghead House. John had a daughter Wilfreda Gilmore who married John Dunbar of Dungannon, their family were gentry too.  Does anyone have copies of these microfish please or can suggest my next step.  Many thanks, Vicki

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Re: GILMORE/GILLMORE FAMILY IRELAND
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 December 16 08:19 GMT (UK) »
Please don't type every in CAPITALS- it's considered SHOUTING! It also helps if you don't put everything in such a long paragraph as it's harder to pick through the details in your post.
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The Gilmores would not be listed in peerage directories as they did not have a title. Being in local directories as 'gentry' means they were well-to-do and there's perhaps a better chance they might be mentioned in records, newspaper items, etc.

Your post here has far more detail on Joseph's career-
http://www.irelandxo.com/ireland/antrim/muckamore-grange/message-board/gilmoregillmore-family-boghead-antrim

At the moment what would concern me most are the locations.

Boghead isn't a townland. This map shows the townland of Muckamore and surrounding area- and the only 'Green Island' I can think of is near Carrickfergus not Carnmoney.
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/massereene-lower/grange-of-muckamore/muckamore/

Annie, youngest daughter of Col. Gilmore of Boghead House, married 1845 Rev. John William Kirkham- see here
The marriage extract- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTBD-7NT

Wilfrida (Gilmore) Dunbar mentioned here- her daughter married into Orr family of Aghadowey.
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Re: GILMORE/GILLMORE FAMILY IRELAND
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 December 16 08:34 GMT (UK) »
Caledonian Mercury (Midlothian, Scotland), 23 June 1863: GILMORE-At Green Island, near Belfast, on the 12th inst., Colonel Gilmore, late of Boghead House, Antrim, Ireland, aged 75.

This might be death notice for his widow (I can only see partial extract). If so, she died in England (Somerset?) which, like Ireland, was all part of the U.K.
Western Gazette (Somerset, England), 16 Aug 1889 "widow of Col. Gillmore, of Boghead House, County Antrim. Ireland, aged 94."
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Re: GILMORE/GILLMORE FAMILY IRELAND
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 December 16 08:36 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for the notice re death of Joseph Albert Gillmore.  I did not have that.  He was a Barrack Master in Scotland from 1821 to 1849. Much appreciated. I wonder if he had a headstone.


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Re: GILMORE/GILLMORE FAMILY IRELAND
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 December 16 08:54 GMT (UK) »
Do you know the location of 'Green Island'?
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Re: GILMORE/GILLMORE FAMILY IRELAND
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 December 16 09:31 GMT (UK) »
Google tells me that Greenisland is a village 7 miles from Belfast and 3 miles south west from Carrickfergus.

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Re: GILMORE/GILLMORE FAMILY IRELAND
« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 December 16 09:50 GMT (UK) »
Give a man a record and you feed him for a day.
Teach a man to research, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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Re: GILMORE/GILLMORE FAMILY IRELAND
« Reply #7 on: Monday 05 December 16 10:15 GMT (UK) »
Depending on precisely what information you are looking for, there’s potentially quite a bit of work involved in going through those church records. For Antrim, the Vicar appears to hold the originals and you can write to him (Rev Stephen McBride) but he may not have the time to go through them for you (some Ministers will some won’t). If they do, Church of Ireland’s policy is to charge. It’s something like £19 an hour.

Your other option is to pay a researcher to go through them for you at PRONI. I am not aware of any other copies of the registers. Just the originals and PRONI’s copy.
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Re: GILMORE/GILLMORE FAMILY IRELAND
« Reply #8 on: Monday 05 December 16 10:57 GMT (UK) »
This will show you the location of Greenisland- just north of the Jordanstown campus of Ulster University-
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/carrickfergus-or-st-nicholas/carrickfergus/west-division/

'Col. Gilmore' is listed at Boghead in the 1861 directory under Antrim-
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/PT_Apage495.htm

Would there have been a reason that he went from Boghead to Greenisland? seems strange that we would have been buried there rather than an earlier family plot if his connection to Greenisland was only the last few years of his life.
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