Author Topic: Eileen Mann  (Read 2727 times)

Offline thomasina

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 230
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Eileen Mann
« on: Wednesday 07 December 16 06:26 GMT (UK) »
Ji
i have Eileen Manns death certificate from 1973 and it states name as Eileen Mann o/w Naylor does this mean out of wedlock? if so it has an address of 143c Breckmock Road London N19 says she was found dead in a van? my help needed was who was Naylor and who was living at that address/ Eileen was my uncles first wife and I would love to know what became of her as all family now dead no one to ask.
thanks Jean :)

Online rosie99

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 42,060
  • ALFIE 2009 - 2021 (Rosbercon Sky's the Limit)
    • View Profile
Re: Eileen Mann
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 07:48 GMT (UK) »
It would probably mean that Naylor was another surname that she was using at the time of her death.

What was the name of your uncle to whom she was married

I presume that this is her from your earlier post
Albert George Mann and Eileen Venner
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Online rosie99

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 42,060
  • ALFIE 2009 - 2021 (Rosbercon Sky's the Limit)
    • View Profile
Re: Eileen Mann
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 08:01 GMT (UK) »
Is this her death  :-\
Eileen Mann
Born 27 Dec 1922
Dec qtr 1973  - St Pancras, London

There is an article in The Times that could relate to her
The Times (London, England), Tuesday, Jun 26, 1956; pg. 6
Murder Charge - Eileen Mann age 33 a cleaner of Hampstead Road, St Pancras - she was on trial for the murder of Herbert White with whom she had been living
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline thomasina

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 230
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Eileen Mann
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 08:47 GMT (UK) »
Blimey the plot thickens will see if I can find the newspaper thank you


Offline aghadowey

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 51,349
    • View Profile
Re: Eileen Mann
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 08:59 GMT (UK) »
There is an article in The Times that could relate to her
The Times (London, England), Tuesday, Jun 26, 1956; pg. 6
Murder Charge - Eileen Mann age 33 a cleaner of Hampstead Road, St Pancras - she was on trial for the murder of Herbert White with whom she had been living

National Archives catalogue mentions file on murder case-
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10874424
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

Online carol8353

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 17,589
  • Me,mum and dad and both gran's c 1955
    • View Profile
Re: Eileen Mann
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 09:08 GMT (UK) »
o/w stands for otherwise (known as)
Sometimes ladies use their married names ,but also revert back to maiden ones.
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Online LizzieL

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,946
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Eileen Mann
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 13:22 GMT (UK) »
It would probably mean that Naylor was another surname that she was using at the time of her death.


There is a marriage between an Eileen Venner and Harry Naylor in Pontefract district in Q4 1939
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

Online LizzieL

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,946
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Eileen Mann
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 07 December 16 13:45 GMT (UK) »
Births of two children with Naylor surname and mother's maiden name Venner

Male Q3 1940 Pontefract District
Female Q2 1942 Leeds District

Maybe still alive so not named them, easily found on freebmd
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

Offline thomasina

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 230
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Eileen Mann
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 December 16 17:05 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for all your help, im going to make a time line see where all this fits in
Jean