FOSTER/GREENWOOD marriage - Hunslet c 1810-1814

[arthurk]

Hang on - I was about to suggest that Yeoman to Iron Moulder isn't a very conventional career path, but on checking back, I see too that John Foster was said to have been born about 1787. So that won't be the marriage in 1794.

Arthur

[Webby]

Hi everyone.  One of John & Sarah's sons - Frederick Foster (also an Ironmoulder) also became a convict sent here to Tasmania in 1843.  Luckily on paper work involving convicts they ususally gave advice as to their parentage and siblings.  Frederick foster named his parents - John & Sarah, his brother James and sisters all by name.  I have checked a few years ago to try and find a marriage and only came up with a couple of Sarah's married to a John Foster.  One was Sarah Cockcroft married in Bradford in 1816 and Sarah Whitaker in 1819 married in Otley. Nothing for the Hunslet area.

Due to not being able to sort  out which Sarah was the correct person...well this has been on the backburner for some years.  Frederick never returned to England, he died in Australia and on his death notice gave his mother's name as "Fanny Greenwood". 

As one of his children gave this information to the registrar so I'm looking at perhaps the prospect of Frederick's mother was a Greenwood. Hence, checking to see whether there was a Foster/Greenwood marriage some time prior to the  birth of the first child Mary in 1815 in Hunslet.  The Census' of 1841, 1851 & 1861 all give John Foster as being an Ironmoulder (this was the occupation on the births of his children as well).  The mother was always 'Sarah'. 

 I always thought 'Fanny' was short for Frances....there are a few Frances and Francis Fosters in this part of the Australian/New Zealand family, but really only looking firstly to check the Greenwood lead (if there is one).

I was unable to find anything prior to 1837 for the Hunslet area and especially the church of St Mary the Virgin for any early marriages.   All the children were baptised there. Thought that perhaps there may have been some more information available at this time.

Thanks everyone for your input......all information is certainly a great help.

Webby

[BumbleB]

Very sorry, we all seem to have currently drawn a blank - certainly in Yorkshire - for the marriage.    I've just had a look at Lancashire marriages, but again drawn a blank.

[avm228]

Could you give us what you have on Jane (1838)? This baptism isn't coming up for me, and she doesn't appear in the family in 1841 or 1851.  There is a 4 yr old Sarah in 1841, but she may be a grandchild.

If there was a child born after civil registration began on 1 July 1837 then, as others have said, this provides a golden opportunity to find out the mother's maiden name.  An 1838 birth would of course have been very late childbearing for Sarah, who appears to have been born abt 1790.

[BumbleB]

You're right avm228, and in fact there are two girls in the household named Sarah - aged 12 and 4.

Household 1841 shows John - 50, Sarah - 50, Mary - 25, James - 20, Frederick - 20, Rachel - 15, Sarah - 12, Martha - 9, Elizabeth - 7 and Sarah - 4.

Baptisms at St Mary the Virgin, Hunslet show:

Mary - 1815, James - 1817, Frederick - 1819, George - 1822, Rachel - 1824 and Sarah Ann - 1826 = all children of John and Sarah, Iron Founder or Iron Moulder.

[dobfarm]

Arthur found the only 2 births around Leeds for Jane Foster 1837 to 39 from GRO index

mothers maiden names HYDE and GOODISON

Jane could be a daughter, granddaughter or visitor - ie:- cousin. ? on 1841c

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Maybe better looking for a marriage of a John Foster and Sarah ( Sally) ? with John's trade an iron moulder- hopefully a marriage by licence or intent to marry bond allegation  1808 to 1815 also Sarah/Sally could be a young widow ?? ?? maiden name Greenwood

[arthurk]

A little bit more on the family, from the Hunslet Cemetery records at the Yorkshire Indexers site. They seem to be in grave No.8960 (Consecrated), as follows, with dates of burial:

Martha Foster of Hunslet (spinster), 23 Nov 1851, age 19
Rachel Foster of Hunslet (spinster), 12 Jun 1860, age 36
John Foster of Hunslet (married), 25 Sep 1861, age 75
Eliza Ann Foster of Hunslet (child), 22 Jun 1862, age 5yrs 6 mo
Sarah Foster of Leeds (widow), 12 Apr 1865, age 75

Those ages are consistent with the 1851 & 1861 censuses. Incidentally, both give John and Sarah as both born in Hunslet, so unless they'd been working away somewhere, you'd expect to find their marriage in that area.

Eliza Ann - possibly registered Sep qtr 1856, Hunslet, no mmn.
Possibly in 1861 census at **RG10/3368 fo88 p31, age 4, born Rothwell. Illegitimate daughter of ?? - the rest of the household is William Kerr (44, b Portsmouth), his wife Ann (43, b Lancashire - can't make out the place), Thomas Derham (lodger, 50, b Ellel, Lancs), Mary A (Derham?), (17, b Leeds). In theory, Eliza could just about be daughter of any of them.... But if Ann had been a Foster, might that give a clue to where John and Sarah once lived and married...?

Must go now - I'll see if anyone's cracked it later.

Arthur

** Edit - should be RG9

[avm228]

Eliza Ann Foster, born 5 August 1856, was baptised at St Mary's, Hunslet on 22 August 1858, daughter of Rachel Foster of Hunslet.

[arthurk]

In 1851 Thomas Derham and his wife Mary are in Hunslet, along with Mary A and two other daughters, but I can't see any obvious connection to the Fosters. Haven't found the Kerrs yet.