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Offline patricknunn

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1821 or 1841 lookup request
« on: Monday 25 July 05 16:21 BST (UK) »
Hi all

I've spent lots of pennies online and getting nowhere fast in my search for records relating to John Milham.

According to all census material above 1861, he was born in Chiddingly, Sussex but alas, I get no joy.  Can anyone help?  He was born 1819 and was married to Martha b.1821.

Thanks

Pat
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Re: 1821 or 1841 lookup request
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 July 05 12:42 BST (UK) »
Hi
He is not in Chiddinglye in 1851 but there are various other Milhams.   Interestingly they are also bricklayers so I would think there is a connection.  I am assuming you mean the East Sussex Chiddingly.  There is a much smaller one in West Sussex near Horsted Keynes, Ardingly etc.     Ask Chrisin1066land for a look up at Lewes when he gets back from holiday.   You really need the baptism record from the parish register and that will be at Lewes.    I am sure someone will look in 1841 for you.  1821 will probably be Chris again - if it exists.
When did he marry?   What are his kids names?   All helps to get the right families.
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Re: 1821 or 1841 lookup request
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 July 05 16:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Andrea

I've had quite alot of help since this post was moved.

It looks as if I have traced him back to roots based in Ewhurst (c.1787).

If anyone is interested in my findings so far, they are detailed below:

James Milham

marriage in Ewhurst, Sussex of James Milham and Esther Sergeant on the 15th January 1787.  

John Milham bapt 12 Oct 1794 Ewhurst parents John & Hester (John could be an error)
(boy) Millham bapt 28 Oct 1791 parents James & Hester (boy could = another John)
Thomas Milham bapt 24 Jan 1793 parents James & Hester
James Milham bapt 20 Jun 1802 parents James & Hester
William Millham bapt 18 Jun 1809 parent James & Esther

It would appear that James and Esther moved south from Ewhurst and settled in Sedlescombe before having their third child, John.

John Milham
John Milham was born between 1792 and 1796 in Sedlescombe, Sussex (north of Battle).  There is an entry in BVR12 which states that a John Milham was baptised on the 12th October 1894 in Ewhurst, Sussex and the parents were John and Hester (although further research shows that John was probably a transcription error and should read James).  Hester was probably also written as Esther.  In the 1841 census (ref: HO107/ 1118/ Sched 22/ Page6), he is described as 45 years of age (making his year of birth around 1796) with an occupation as a bricklayer.  He was residing at Willetts in Chiddingly, Sussex with his wife Sarah (b. 1799-1801, East Hoathly, Sussex, aged 40) and their six children William (b.1819-21,  aged 20, Bricklayer), Henry (b. 1826, aged 15), Richard (b. 1834, aged 7), George (b. 1836, Chiddingly, aged 5), Naomi (b. 1838, Chiddingly, aged 2) and Edward (b. 1840, aged 1).  Although John Milham is not listed, it seems most likely that this was his family since they were bricklayers.
In the 1861 census (Ref: RG9/569), we know that John (aged 69) and his wife Sarah (aged 62) were resident at Steam Mill, Chiddingly.  We also have additional information to state that John was still a bricklayer but also a Farmer of twenty acres.  The only child to remain within the family home is George Milham (aged 25) who is also registered as a bricklayer.
John Milham died aged 85 during the September period of 1877 in the Hailsham district (ref: 2b, 49)

John Milham

John Milham was born in approximately 1819 in East Sussex.  Despite the majority of the census reporting his birth place as Chiddingly, the 1861 census details his birth place as Lewes.  This is most probably an error.  Furthermore, there seems to be strong evidence that many of the Milham families born in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries were all involved in the building industry and more specifically, the bricklaying trade.

In the March period of 1939, John Milham married Martha Wren (b.1821, Little Horsted) at Chiddingly(?) in the Hailsham district of Sussex.

There may be some connection with a MILHAM entry in the 1941 census.  Not only were the family resident in Chiddingly, they were also bricklayers. The details are:

1841 Census - HO107/ 1118/ Sched 22/ Page6 - Willetts, Chiddingly
MILHAM John, 45, Bricklayer
............ Sarah, 40
............ William, 20, Bricklayer
............ Henry, 15
............ Richard, 7
............ George, 5
............ Naomi, 2
............ Edward, 1

I would think it was the above John as before that the MILHAM's were in Sedlescombe, Sussex.

The 1861 census reveals that John Milham lived at 8 Brook Street, St John’s under the Castle, Lewes, Sussex along with his wife Martha and their seven children.  John was perusing his trade as a bricklayer/businessman and it appears that Martha was a dress maker.
 
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Re: 1821 or 1841 lookup request
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 27 July 05 17:19 BST (UK) »
Rememberc that gaes were rounded donw to the nearest 5 in 1841
1851 in Chiddingly has the family on HO107 1638 F283 living at Scrapers Hill
John Milham 59 b Sedlescombe bricklayer
Sarah 52 b East Hoathly
Caroline 2
Edward 10
Eliza 5
George 15 bricklayers lab
Naomi 12
Philis 9   all b Chiddingly

There is another family at Willets  Folio 287
Eleanor 7
Elizabeth wi 31 b Herstmonceux
Mary Ann 9
Sarah E 3  all kids b Chiddingly except
Selina 5 b Camberwell Ldn
William Hd 31 bricklayer JM  b Cghiddingly
Caroline 1   folio 288 plus
un-named infant 2wks daughter  also on 288
Richard 18 serv 18 bricklayers lab
all b Chiddingly
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Re: 1821 or 1841 lookup request
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 July 05 00:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks Andrea for the tips and extra info.  It all fits within the plan - William was John's younger brother and stayed at Willets whilst the family moved on to Scrapers Hill.

Pat
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Re: 1821 or 1841 lookup request
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 21 August 05 23:21 BST (UK) »
Hi there

noticed these entries in the St John Sub Castro Baptisms Register

1858 Feb   17, Milham John, m, son, John & Martha, OTP, Labourer.
1860 Sep   29, Milham Martha Wren, f, dau, John & Martha, OTP, Labourer.
1861 Jun   2, Milham   George Frederick Corner, m, son, Margaret Jane, OTP.

and this single burial in the Burial Register

1861 July   24, Milham, George Frederick Corner, m, 4 months                  
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