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Re: Baron
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 11 December 16 22:30 GMT (UK) »
She was Frederick's sister

1891  New Malden, Surrey
RG12; Piece: 609; Folio: 5; Page: 4

Big family!


Charles J Paine   43 Furniture Dealer
Mary A Paine   39
Fred W Paine   21
Bryan C L Paine   18
Eliza M Paine   17
Mabel S Paine   14
Patrick H Paine   12
Martin M Paine   9
Ida K Paine   7
Charles P M Paine   5
William E Paine   3
Dennis F Paine   1
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Re: Baron
« Reply #10 on: Monday 12 December 16 15:50 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone. I think that Bookbox may be right. Though why she has the added name of Violet escapes me. I think I will order the marriage certificate to be sure.

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Re: Baron
« Reply #11 on: Monday 12 December 16 17:22 GMT (UK) »
She was Frederick's sister

1891  New Malden, Surrey
RG12; Piece: 609; Folio: 5; Page: 4

Big family!


Charles J Paine   43 Furniture Dealer
Mary A Paine   39
Fred W Paine   21
Bryan C L Paine   18
Eliza M Paine   17
Mabel S Paine   14
Patrick H Paine   12
Martin M Paine   9
Ida K Paine   7
Charles P M Paine   5
William E Paine   3
Dennis F Paine   1

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Frederick William Paine Bpt. 6 Aug 1871 Norbiton, St Peter
Charles James Paine occ carpenter
Mary Ann Paine

A snippet from this link
http://www.kingstononline.co.uk/kingstons-history-frederick-paine-funeral-directors/
Frederick William Paine was born 4 April 1870 on Burritt Road in Norbiton.
As the eldest of 11 children he took over the family business of house furnishers, estate agents an funeral directors at the age of 24 and developed their funeral service………….

Using the above dob +/-1 free search 1939 Register
shows a Frederick W PAIN b1871  Kingston-upon Thames
click preview and it shows       
Charles A Moatt 1884 and 3 more people are on this record
you will need credits to view the original

https://billiongraves.com/grave/Frederick-William-Paine/3441268#/
Surname PAINE
Charles James
Mary Ann
Gladys Ethel
Cecil George
Bryan Charles Sargent

Bottom inscription reads
In affectionate rememberance of Frederick William Paine
 “undertaker of this town”
who passed away suddenly March 20th 1945 in his 75th Year

New GRO search shows following

BARON Rachel mmn  HAMPSON     
1875  S Qtr, Wigan  Volume 08C  Page 117

You can also search birth & marriages on Lancashire BMD
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

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http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

26 Dec 1875 St John the Divine, Pemberton, Lancashire
Rachel Baron born 15 Sep 1875 dau of James Baron occ collier & Ellen Abode: Newtown Pemberton
James & Ellen's 1872 marriage details can be found on Lancashire OPC

Hopefully her marriage certificate will confirm if the above is correct Rachel
   





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Re: Baron
« Reply #12 on: Monday 12 December 16 19:47 GMT (UK) »
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family business of house furnishers, estate agents and funeral directors

What a strange combination of jobs. Although I suppose he could have buried someone, cleared their house and sold the furniture and then sold the house - perhaps not so odd after all!  ;)
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Re: Baron
« Reply #13 on: Monday 12 December 16 19:47 GMT (UK) »
26 Dec 1875 St John the Divine, Pemberton, Lancashire
Rachel Baron born 15 Sep 1875...

Hopefully her marriage certificate will confirm if the above is correct Rachel

But first you may want to look at the 1939 Register for Rachel Paine in Wigan, as already recommended above, because now you can compare the date of birth given there with the date of birth that has been found by Ladyhawk for Rachel Baron.

ADDED - I did say it was a long shot  :(