The Wright Family

[softly softly]

Lorraine, my mind is made up-to many pieces fit together re dates, names etc. Do not dismiss post 9 re 1911 census either.

I am going to leave this line now and like suz move onto Peter 1900.

Thanks for sharing what you have, been a good chase.

John

[aghadowey]

Since I have an interest in Wrights in Ireland I started looking at this topic from an Irish view but before I go further here’s another possible child for John Wright & Margaret Hunter-
Albert Wright (O/D 1887 Prescot-O/D 1887 Prescot)
   WRIGHT, ALBERT       HUNTER 
   GRO Reference: 1887  D Quarter in PRESCOT  Volume 08B  Page 675

Joseph Wright’s 1st marriage (1865) was in Enniskillen Registry Office and lists father as William Wright, a farmer, but it is really his 2nd marriage (1872) that gives further clues. One of the witnesses is a Joseph Wright. Wondering if 1) Joseph was John’s brother and 2) also moved to England, I started searching for a Joseph Wright born roughly 1838ish in Ireland but living in Lancashire.
At the same time I also wondered about the Robert Wright in household of John’s widow (1891) since he didn’t seem to be John & Margaret’s son. So, could Robert be Joseph’s son?
Sure enough, here’s what I found-
Joseph Wright (c1832-aft.1881) m.(21 July 1865 St. Helens Parish Church) Mary Ann Steel (c1843 Ire.-1876 Prescot)
Army Rolls- 9 Dec.1858 Liverpool: Joseph Wright, 26, born St. Helens, height 5’ 6 ¾“ . Struck out: 9 Sept./59 Deserter. Is this the same Joseph Wright? Birthplace says St. Helens but remember John’s occupation as Corporal Fermanagh Militia in 1865
Marriage- father William Wright, labourer
1871 Census- Windle civil parish, St. Helens dist., Prescot R.D.: Joseph Wright, 39, Ire.; wife Mary Ann Wright, 29, Ire.; son William Wright, 2; boarder Ann Steel, 16.
witness to 1872 marriage
1881 Census- 70 Walmsley St.: Joseph Wright, 48, Ire., wid., laborer at Alkali works; son William Wright, 12, St. Helens, scholar; son Robert Wright, 7, St. Helens, scholar
1. William Wright (28 Aug.1868). An online tree says had 9 children and died 1936
Bapt. 27 Sept.1868 St. Thomas Eccleston: William Wright, born 28 Aug., parents- Joseph (lab.) & Mary Ann Wright, Windle
2. ? William Wright (1874)- twin with Robert? Can’t find earlier William’s birth but there is a baptism record for earlier William alive in 1881. This birth appears on same page in birth register as Robert's and mother's maiden name Steel-
WRIGHT, WILLIAM       STEEL 
GRO Reference: 1874  M Quarter in PRESCOT  Volume 08B  Page 692
3. Robert Wright (24 Jan.1874-aft.1891)
WRIGHT, ROBERT       STEEL 
GRO Reference: 1874  M Quarter in PRESCOT  Volume 08B  Page 692
Bapt. 5 Apr.1874 St Thomas Eccleston: Robert Wright, born 27 Jan.1874, parents- Joseph & Mary Ann Wright
1891- with Margaret Wright (John’s widow)

[lorribelle]

I have Robert Wright on 1891 census, presuming this is the same Robert you mention, I think it says he is 13months old, not 13 years and this ties in with a birth I found in 1890 M Quarter for a Robert Wright mmm Hunter registration district Prescot. I have John Wrights death certificate, he died23rd February 1890 so it looks like Robert was born just before or just after his fathers death.
Lorraine

[aghadowey]

I think you are correct that Robert is 13 months old in 1891 census and thus the son born 1890 and died 1891. I was going by the 1891 census details posted earlier (reply #11) but should have verified it was correct myself 
Birth- WRIGHT, ROBERT (mmn-HUNTER) GRO Reference: 1890  M Quarter in PRESCOT  Volume 08B  Page 684
Death- (July/Sept.1891) WRIGHT    Robert    1    Prescot    8b   415

Father's death registered previous quarter-
Death (Apr./June) Wright    Joseph    44    Prescot    8b   662

So, at this point the only connection between John Wright (born c1838 Ireland, father William) and Joseph Wright (born c1832 Ireland, father William) is that a Joseph appears as witness on John's 2nd marriage.

Irish records will likely be more difficult to find or non-existant. Civil registration of births, marriages & deaths are complete from 1864 with non-Catholic marriages (including registry office) starting from 1845. Therefore, no birth certificates for John, Joseph, etc.
I did take a look for William Wright in Fermanagh but couldn't find a death but of course John's father could have died before 1864, in another county or perhaps even moved over to England.