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Bootmaker Apprenticeship Records
« on: Monday 26 December 16 17:50 GMT (UK) »
My Great Great Grandfather John Coward (1821-1897) was a Master Shoemaker around Shoreditch and Islington from about 1857 up until his death. I understand from the information on here that he would have had to serve an apprenticeship for between 6-7 years. Are there any records online for apprentice shoemakers in London? All I have found so far is the scant few on Past Times.

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Re: Bootmaker Apprenticeship Records
« Reply #1 on: Monday 26 December 16 19:38 GMT (UK) »
Apprenticeship during the 19th century was usually a private arrangement between families. After 1811 formal records were not required for taxation purposes. So any documentation found would generally be a case of chance survival.

But there are two main exceptions for London. One would be if the apprentice was working within (or very close to) the City of London boundary and his master was a member of one of the City livery companies. In that event the apprenticeship may be referred to in the relevant Company's archives. These are mostly at Guildhall Library, although some companies have retained their own records. (The apprenticeship records for London livery companies that have been indexed online, e.g. at FindMyPast and Londonroll.org, are mostly pre-1800.)

Another exception would be if the family was very poor, when an apprenticeship might have been paid for by the poor law guardians or by a local charity. In that event there might be something at the record office (LMA), or at the local studies archive for the relevant London borough.

But unless you have a positive lead to either of the above circumstances, I'm afraid it probably isn't a practical search.

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Re: Bootmaker Apprenticeship Records
« Reply #2 on: Monday 26 December 16 20:54 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for your kind help Bookbox. He was certainly poor from the facts I have discovered in his early life, so I will try that.

All the best!

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Re: Bootmaker Apprenticeship Records
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 25 January 23 11:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi Scathelock, how did you get on with finding records. I ask as now I am looking at my dad's side I find a line of cordwainers, shoemakers and master boot makers around Walworth and Deptford
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Re: Bootmaker Apprenticeship Records
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 28 January 23 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Not London but the shoe museum in Northampton

https://www.northamptonmuseums.com/directory/2/Collections/category/8

appear to have:

Documentary archive including catalogues and trade journals
Photographs, paintings and prints depicting shoes and shoemaking
There is also an index of shoemakers and shoe companies from across the UK and further afield,


So might be worth seeing if they have anything which is of help for you.


Gypsy DRAPERs, children of Billy and Mary - Ellen,Darnity,Spencer,Billy Jnr,Kisby,Ellick
Descendants of Fred and Esther (Garrett) WHITLOCK - Wavendon, Woburn Sands area
Descendants of George and Barbara (Willis) SUTTON - Earls Barton and Nether Heyford
BISSELL - Hanslope, New Bradwell, Bucks and Aston, Birmingham area
Lavinia DRAPER died 1840 Cranfield
Gypsies in the Bow Brickhill and Beds/Bucks border areas

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Re: Bootmaker Apprenticeship Records
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 28 January 23 12:08 GMT (UK) »

My Ancestors were all Cordwainers


https://cordwainers.org/
CHAPMAN ROBINSON McKAY O'MALLEY

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Re: Bootmaker Apprenticeship Records
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 28 January 23 14:59 GMT (UK) »
Thx, we have contacted Cordwainers and I'll give Northants a try
Aguirra, Howell, Weatherby, Mady