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Re: adoption 1919-1920
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 27 December 16 22:40 GMT (UK) »
There aren't many Alice Tapp's in the bmd indexes, even less without middle names but one marriage stands out.

In 1908 also in the London City district, Alice Tapp marries Herbert Kingsnorth July 18 1908, the image from the parish register is on Ancestry. They marry by license and she gives her residence as Newington, Sittingbourne, Kent.

Herbert & Alice are on the 1939 register, she seems to die in 1949 in Tonbridge Kent, he remmaries in 1950 and lives on to 1970

I can't see any obvious Kingsnorth mmn Tapp births but could Violet have been born as a result of a daliance towards the end of WW1?
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Re: adoption 1919-1920
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 27 December 16 22:41 GMT (UK) »
There is no death for an Alice MacArthur from 1919 to 1983 in London, according to free bmd.

Trees on Ancestry have her death as 1991 - Guelph, Ontario.
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Re: adoption 1919-1920
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 27 December 16 22:43 GMT (UK) »
I agree groom ...
Quite common for child to be given father surname as a middle name on the certificate especially if the mother wanted to file for maintenance money
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Re: adoption 1919-1920
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 27 December 16 22:45 GMT (UK) »
Is there an address for the mother on the birth certificate? That might help trace some contacts

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Re: adoption 1919-1920
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 27 December 16 22:50 GMT (UK) »
Mabel and Lawrence do not marry until Violet is a year old - so who was looking after her up to then?

Marriages December quarter 1920
 Mabel M   Beare    Brentford    3a   440    
 Lawrence P Deakin     Brentford    3a   440

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Re: adoption 1919-1920
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 27 December 16 22:55 GMT (UK) »
They also had their own child in April 1921, so Mabel must have been at least 2 months pregnant when she married. Rather strange to take on a young child at the same time, I wonder if there was some sort of family connection?
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Re: adoption 1919-1920
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 27 December 16 22:59 GMT (UK) »
Have you researched the Beares and Deakins to look for any possible connection to Alice.

Mabel M Beare was born in 1883, so not particularly young on her marriage.

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Re: adoption 1919-1920
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 02:53 GMT (UK) »
The only births for Alice Tapp in London from 1890 to 1905 are two in 1899.  Alice Maud in St Olave and Alice Maud M in Lambeth.

These girls both die by the age of 1.

So either Alice was born outside London, or aged around 30 or above when baby born.

There is no death or marriage for an Alice Tapp from 1919 to 1939 in London.

Added:
Sorry, do you mean she was born as MacArthur, so her parents were married?
Unknown where Alice was born or died. Can not find any record of marriage.

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Re: adoption 1919-1920
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 28 December 16 02:54 GMT (UK) »
Mabel and Lawrence do not marry until Violet is a year old - so who was looking after her up to then?

Marriages December quarter 1920
 Mabel M   Beare    Brentford    3a   440    
 Lawrence P Deakin     Brentford    3a   440
I would assume Alice Tapp.