info needed on John Patrick Flannery died Scunthorpe 1952

[chempat]

Should the 2 threads be merged?

[Geoff-E]

... what is puzzling is he was killed due to an accident in May 1952 but his death wasn't registered until November 1952. Not sure why this was.

There might have been the need for an inquest or accident inquiry which would normally delay things.

See https://bereavementadvice.org/topics/death-certificate-and-coroners-inquest/coroners-inquests

[heywood]

Looking on the death certificate he is down as just John Flannery but what is puzzling is he was killed due to an accident in May 1952 but his death wasn't registered until November 1952. Not sure why this was.
In 1951 he was classed as living in Rawmarsh, Rotherham then in 1952 he was classed as living in the Hutment camp, Scunthorpe.
Do we have the right John Flannery or are there two.?

The other thread is here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=761864.

Sorry, confused again.
Did your John Flannery die in 1952?
Was he the one who married in 1951?
If so, how is he described on the marriage certificate? Is he a bachelor?

[moiramount]

yes he is down as a bachelor on the marriage cert in 1951 and his address then was 203 Abbeyfield rd, Pitsmoor, Sheffield, he then lived in Rawmarsh, Rotherham with his wife. When he died in 1952 he lived in Scunthorpe Lincs.

[aghadowey]

Everything seems to be quite muddled and having two threads looking for the same person doesn't help, Moira (at this point merging the 2 threads would probably only cause more confusion as one merged topic wouldn't flow very well).

I did numerous searches for a birth record for 'John Patrick Flannery' born c1916 in Tipperary/Ireland without a likely match but if we've been searching for the wrong person...

So, Moira, exactly what are the known facts about the person you are looking for? Please tell us exactly what you started with on the correct person. In other words, is the death certificate for the correct person? the marriage certificate? etc.

[moiramount]

The probate record and the death cert both have the same address but the probate one has him down as John Patrick Flannery but the death cert only says John Flannery. According to ages on all certs , they tally up giving him a birth year of 1916. According to my friends grandmother he came from Tipperary, Ireland and he was a bigamist and died five months after his only child was born in 1951. On the probate record he left his widow Rose £819.5s in May 1952.

[aghadowey]

On the probate record he left his widow Rose £819.5s in May 1952.
No, a Rose Flannery (wdow) was appointed to probate his estate. This does not mean that she received anything in his Will. You need to order the Will to see who was mentioned and what he bequeathed to them.

The probate record and the death cert both have the same address but the probate one has him down as John Patrick Flannery but the death cert only says John Flannery.
Who was the informant on the death certificate? was it a Rose Flannery, another relative or coroner, etc.?

According to my friends grandmother he came from Tipperary, Ireland and he was a bigamist
How do they 'know' he was a bigamist?
What is listed as father's name and occupation on his 'second' marriage certificate?

Some of these questions might have been answered previously but I am deliberately ignoring what has already been posted in order to start sifting through facts.

[moiramount]

We only have one marriage cert and that is to Brenda Billups in 1951, father John Flannery , farmer.

Death cert, informant, it says certificate on inquest adjourned and not resumed, recieved from EJR Hett or Mett, deputy coroner for the Kirton district of Lindsey Lincs.

It's been spoken of that he was a bigamist by the family.

[heywood]

Glad to see that your friend is sending for the will. I hope it gives you some answers and I hope you will be able to share any findings with us to find JF prior to 1951.

Good luck
Heywood