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Vincent Barber / Charles Barber (Artist) Help
« on: Saturday 31 December 16 11:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Not sure how to word this one. 

I am looking for information on Fanny Vincent Barber Born abt 1839 possibly Bethnal Green.  She married William Manley Hairdresser in 1860.  Her father is named as Charles Barber Artist on the Marriage Certificate.  It doesn't say deceased which is where I'm starting to get a little confused.

There are two artists called Charles Barber that died before that time (well one definitely did).

Charles Vincent Barber (ca. 1784 1854) was an English landscape painter and art teacher.

or

Charles Louis Barber a silhouette paper cutter artist. 

I have found a baptism record for Fanny vincent barber stating Charles Louis Barber as her father which does fit.

Fanny Vincent Barber
Gender:   Female
Baptism Date:   27 May 1838
Baptism Place:   Worksop,Nottingham,England
Father:   Charles Louis Barber
Mother:   Emily
FHL Film Number:   504068, 504070, 504543

I can't find anything else other than the marriage record and 1861 census record where it states she was born in Bethnal Green same as her husband William Manley.

Does anyone have any views or ideas on this at all or maybe where I can go to ascertain some more information.

Thank you for taking the time to read this - I hope I'm making some kind of sense.

Thank you.

Michelle

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Re: Vincent Barber / Charles Barber (Artist) Help
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 31 December 16 12:18 GMT (UK) »
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Vincent Barber / Charles Barber (Artist) Help
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 31 December 16 12:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Thank you for you reply.  Yes I've seen this but it doesn't give much personal information.  I'm trying to link the correct Charles Barber to Fanny Vincent Barber.  Thank you again.  Michelle

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Re: Vincent Barber / Charles Barber (Artist) Help
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 31 December 16 12:52 GMT (UK) »
The baptism of Fanny Vincent Barber at St Mary, Worksop on 27 May 1838 gives abode as London.

There is also this baptism
Jessie Frances Silver Barber
25 September 1838
Father Charles Louis Barber
Mother Emily
Abode Hatton Garden
fathers occupation Artist
Shoreditch St Leonard
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Re: Vincent Barber / Charles Barber (Artist) Help
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 31 December 16 12:59 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if this is Charles & Emily's marriage  :-\
Charles Lewis Barber
Emily Middleton
8 Sep 1836
Saint Mary, Newington, Surrey

It does show his middle name as Lewis when he is insolvent
Charles Lewis Barber of East Teignmouth -occupation Landscape painter and pictorial paper cutter -date of court order 13/03/1834
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Re: Vincent Barber / Charles Barber (Artist) Help
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 31 December 16 13:25 GMT (UK) »
There's a SILVER family in Bethnal Green on the 1851. Father James mother Emily with daughters Fanny and Jessy and several other children. :-\

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Re: Vincent Barber / Charles Barber (Artist) Help
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 31 December 16 13:31 GMT (UK) »
That looks interesting Maureen  ;D

James Silver married Emily Middleton Middlecoat -spinster father William Middlecoat a watch maker -March 13th 1842
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Re: Vincent Barber / Charles Barber (Artist) Help
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 31 December 16 13:43 GMT (UK) »
This is possibly the birth of James & Emilys son
SILVER, JAMES  ALBERT     mothers maiden name MIDDLETON     
June Quarter 1843 in Hackney reg dist  Volume 03  Page 164

These are the children that Maureen found with James & Emily Silver in 1851

Jessy Silver   15
Fanny Silver   13
William Silver   11

Emely Silver   9
James Silver   8
Marian Silver   4
Samuel Silver   3
Ellen Silver   9 Mo

BARBER, WILLIAM  WHEATLEY     mmn MIDDLETON     
December Quarter 1839 in SAINT SAVIOUR'S UNION  Volume 04  Page 425
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Re: Vincent Barber / Charles Barber (Artist) Help
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 31 December 16 13:56 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if this is Charles death  :-\
Deaths Sep 1845 
Charles Louis Henry   Barber    
Cambridge    14   10

Newspaper reports of the death indicate that he was a Captain in 15th Hussars, inventor of relievo painting and an artist
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