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Hi everyone, and Happy New Year.

I would like help identifying the Sgt. TYLER who appeared in a c’1918 British Pathé film arriving home to his family in Lambeth, London.

The family member who sent me the link believes that this man might be an ancestor and that the address might be in Ethelred Street, although the film provides no clues other than ‘Lambeth’ and ‘Sergeant TYLER’.

The film does provide a close-up of Sgt. TYLER with cap-badge so I hope someone might be able to identify his regiment. And there is an emblem above his sergeant’s stripes that might be a battle or company badge.

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/lambeth-welcomes-sergeant-tyler

Any suggestions gratefully received.

ADDENDUM: It is possible to view the film as stills, and then zoom them, and I now wonder if the emblem above his stripes might be for a colour-sergeant or staff-sergeant.

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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 January 17 08:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I'm on my phone at the moment but it looks to be the Middlesex Regiment.
(Duke of Cambridge's own)?

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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 January 17 09:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Frank, thanks very much!

That's a very good start.

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 January 17 09:05 GMT (UK) »
I'm sure someone will progress the search by the time I can get to my laptop, if not then I will carry on when I return home :)

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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 January 17 09:28 GMT (UK) »
I don't know if this helps but the pub at the beginning is called the 'George' at 169, it seems to be part of the Lambeth Walk.

Great video!

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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 January 17 09:41 GMT (UK) »
The "George" 169 Lambeth Walk.

http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/london/se11_kennington.html

Nice one Cas  ;)

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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 03 January 17 09:55 GMT (UK) »
https://holdinganapple.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/lambeth-walk-pub-crawl/

On this link if you go to the comments at the bottom, someone has written 'George' was in the part of demolished Ethelred.

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Lewis - Ystradgynlias Breckonshire
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Yelland, Bray, Trethewey  - Cornwall

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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 03 January 17 11:12 GMT (UK) »
An Albert Walter Tyler was living at 67 Ethelred street Lambeth in the census before the war.

Nothing obvious in the service records (yet!).  Not sure about Middlesex Regiment though, there is no scroll beneath the circular bit (technical expression) on his badge.

Also don't think the badge above his stripes is a S Sgts crown.

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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 03 January 17 11:41 GMT (UK) »
.................................................  Not sure about Middlesex Regiment though, there is no scroll beneath the circular bit (technical expression) on his badge.........................

maxD


That was my original thought, but wondered if it was the way the "still" was showing it  :-\

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