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Offline ShaunJ

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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 04 January 17 11:01 GMT (UK) »
Just taking a closer look at the cap badge, the upright piece in the top half is offset to the left. It looks very much like the East Lancs regiment
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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 04 January 17 11:21 GMT (UK) »
Just taking a closer look at the cap badge, the upright piece in the top half is offset to the left. It looks very much like the East Lancs regiment


Nice one  :)

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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 04 January 17 11:36 GMT (UK) »
Better!  The sphinx is easy to spot in your close up.  There is a MIC for a 9705 Sjt William Tyler  of the East Lancs.  No further record though (yet!).  Getting closer perhaps?

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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 04 January 17 11:38 GMT (UK) »
Looks good.
9705 gives an attestation date of Jan. 1908.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 04 January 17 11:54 GMT (UK) »
It looks like he's in the citations for the D.C.M, hence the hero's welcome?.

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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 04 January 17 11:59 GMT (UK) »
In a nutshell, if he's our man:
He was acting corporal at the time and used a machine gun while under heavy shell fire which seriously affected his eyes at the time.

It's on Ancestry.

Frank
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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 04 January 17 12:10 GMT (UK) »
The citation is in the Gazette in March 1916.

9705 Acting Corporal W. Tyler, 1st Battalion, East Lancashire Regiment.
"For conspicuous gallantry; he mounted his machine gun under heavy fire and opened on the enemy. While doing so a shell burst near him, seriously affecting his eyes, but he stuck to his work and fired with good effect throughout the action."

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/29503/supplement/2729/data.pdf

Our man is certainly wearing a medal in the opening frames of the film
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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 04 January 17 12:15 GMT (UK) »
I think the one question mark is why would a man from London join the E.Lancs. as a pre war regular.
One answer would be that the family moved to London after he joined but still an anomaly. That aside he looks the most likely candidate.
It's a nice thought that every man received this kind of welcome but unfortunately that wasn't the case so this event was regarded as something special. A DCM would fall into that category.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 04 January 17 12:17 GMT (UK) »
Post deleted, same as shaunJ post.


Frank.

Waiting in anticipation for "Spades" I wonder if he was the relative in the opening post?
Ramsey Ridsdale Ridgway Kempen Knight Harrison Denby Sisson Graney Spilsbury Wain Hebden Abbott Skinn ........ Yorkshire (Doncaster Goole Snaith Thorne area)Lincolnshire Nottinghamshire The Netherlands