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Robert John Johnston
« on: Friday 06 January 17 22:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi there

I'm helping an elderly lady with her ancestors. Her Great Grandfather Robert John Johnston was b abt 1851 in Tasmania and came to NZ with his brother Charles. Robert married Elizabeth Sophia Armer 26 Mar 1884. I need some help looking for Roberts parents please.  I have come across parents that included Mary Riley as a mother. The funeral directors for Robert no longer exist, he died 5 Nov 1939 in Hamilton and I haven't found any other information that directs me to his birth details. I'd appreciate your help thanks.

I have snippets for a Charles Johnston and apparently he was a bit notorious, but not thing that can lead to his parents.

I'm using the library internet at present and it may take a few days for me to reply.

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Re: Robert John Johnston
« Reply #1 on: Friday 06 January 17 22:44 GMT (UK) »
Buy his death printout - depending on who the informant was, it should have his parents' details.

Or - the marriage printout may be a better bet.

Added - you can search Tasmanian records here:

https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names
Farrell  - Ayrshire
Cairns - Ayrshire
McCann - Ayrshire
Brown - Ayrshire
Petty - Yorkshire, Durham
Lucas - Staffordshire, Durham
Whitaker - Yorkshire
Thackrah - Yorkshire
Stephenson - Durham
Marshall - Yorkshire
Walker - Staffordshire, Southland New Zealand
McCullough -  Antrim, Southland New Zealand,
Cavanagh - Galway, Southland New Zealand
Anthony - Tipperary, Southland New Zealand
Bath - Cornwall, Tasmania, Southland
Brungot - Alesund, Norway; Southland
Bonthron - Fifeshire, Southland

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Re: Robert John Johnston
« Reply #2 on: Friday 06 January 17 23:09 GMT (UK) »
The marriage certificate would also have his parents :)

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Re: Robert John Johnston
« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 January 17 23:24 GMT (UK) »
Papers Past has some information, including a golden wedding announcement in the New Zealand Herald of 26th March 1934 , for Robert John JOHNSTON, son of the late Robert and Mary, and Elizabeth Sophia. The Herald for the following day has a useful biography for Robert John.
Farrell  - Ayrshire
Cairns - Ayrshire
McCann - Ayrshire
Brown - Ayrshire
Petty - Yorkshire, Durham
Lucas - Staffordshire, Durham
Whitaker - Yorkshire
Thackrah - Yorkshire
Stephenson - Durham
Marshall - Yorkshire
Walker - Staffordshire, Southland New Zealand
McCullough -  Antrim, Southland New Zealand,
Cavanagh - Galway, Southland New Zealand
Anthony - Tipperary, Southland New Zealand
Bath - Cornwall, Tasmania, Southland
Brungot - Alesund, Norway; Southland
Bonthron - Fifeshire, Southland


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Re: Robert John Johnston
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 07 January 17 00:35 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your replies John and Kelzies

John I am sure I checked papers past last year for these two. I think  death notice came up but my search terms may have not been enough. Thank you, I am so pleased you found the notice, Gives me something to go on. This is so great!

Thanks

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Re: Robert John Johnston
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 07 January 17 01:32 GMT (UK) »
Marriage 5 Sept 1853 Robert JOHNSTON and Mary RILEY
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j80/

Birth 12 Jan 1855 JOHNSTON, Robert; Father Robert.; Mother Mary RILEY
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j81/

Birth 28 Feb 1861 JOHNSTON, male (Given Name not recorded); Father Robert.; Mother Mary RILEY
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j82/


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Re: Robert John Johnston
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 07 January 17 06:48 GMT (UK) »
Linc gives four children for Robert JOHNSTON and his wife Mary (nee RILEY)

195880   JOHNSTON ROBERT   born 1855, Spring Bay
195879   JOHNSTON WILLIAM THOMAS, born 1857, Richmond
195881   JOHNSTON M, born 1861, Hobart
195878   JOHNSTONE SARAH ELIZABETH, born 1863, Hobart

http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=P&id=203939

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Re: Robert John Johnston
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 07 January 17 06:58 GMT (UK) »
This could be the sad story of Sarah Elizabeth above (called Sarah Emily in the story)

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS18820831.2.31?query=Robert%20Johnston
Farrell  - Ayrshire
Cairns - Ayrshire
McCann - Ayrshire
Brown - Ayrshire
Petty - Yorkshire, Durham
Lucas - Staffordshire, Durham
Whitaker - Yorkshire
Thackrah - Yorkshire
Stephenson - Durham
Marshall - Yorkshire
Walker - Staffordshire, Southland New Zealand
McCullough -  Antrim, Southland New Zealand,
Cavanagh - Galway, Southland New Zealand
Anthony - Tipperary, Southland New Zealand
Bath - Cornwall, Tasmania, Southland
Brungot - Alesund, Norway; Southland
Bonthron - Fifeshire, Southland

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Re: Robert John Johnston
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 07 January 17 07:32 GMT (UK) »
Goodness, what a story, with so many sad aspects.  Is the result of the inquest reported anywhere?

Certainly seems possible that this is Sarah.

The age of the father as given in this newspaper article is ten years older than the age given in the marriage of Robert JOHNSTON and Mary RILEY - however there's plenty of scope for misreporting or, indeed, for Robert to have lowered his age for a marriage to a woman at least 10 years younger. Sarah's age and birthplace fit well.

You say that the son Robert went to NZ with his brother Charles, however it's obvious from the Papers Past, Golden Wedding information that his father and presumably also his mother and siblings.

Judith



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