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Re: John Andrew Jackson, murdered 1863, Mount Pleasant, Killowney Little
« Reply #9 on: Monday 20 August 18 16:39 BST (UK) »
... the lady of Mr. Tuthill of Rapla, and the sister of Judge Jackson, was found outside the house quite dead ... situated about two miles from Nenagh."
Yes, I think I found that in a newspaper search. So far as I know, that's a different lot of Jacksons, even though Rapla is common to that and "my" lot. The Major and John Andrew Jackson were both JPs, not judges, for one thing. And there's a website, "The Silver Bowl", which identifies her as "Anna Strettell JACKSON (1793-1844) of Cork"  (See http://www.thesilverbowl.com/history/Jackson-Strettell.html). I don't guarantee the identification - just that I can't match her to the Major's lot from that description.

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Re: John Andrew Jackson, murdered 1863, Mount Pleasant, Killowney Little
« Reply #10 on: Monday 20 August 18 16:45 BST (UK) »
... the lady of Mr. Tuthill of Rapla, and the sister of Judge Jackson, was found outside the house quite dead ... situated about two miles from Nenagh."
Yes, I think I found that in a newspaper search. So far as I know, that's a different lot of Jacksons, even though Rapla is common to that and "my" lot. The Major and John Andrew Jackson were both JPs, not judges, for one thing. And there's a website, "The Silver Bowl", which identifies her as "Anna Strettell JACKSON (1793-1844) of Cork"  (See http://www.thesilverbowl.com/history/Jackson-Strettell.html). I don't guarantee the identification - just that I can't match her to the Major's lot from that description.


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Re: John Andrew Jackson, murdered 1863, Mount Pleasant, Killowney Little
« Reply #11 on: Monday 20 August 18 16:48 BST (UK) »
... Just wondering if you made any progress with finding out what happened with the murder trial. ...
I've found nothing further but then I haven't looked either, partly because John Andrew Jackson is so far from my line.

... Also how did you come to have interest in this case?
Well, the Jacksons aren't my relatives, instead they are related to an old school friend (who turns out to be my 4th cousin - that's what happens when your mothers' both have connections to the same small village in Cheshire). In fact, I started helping him with his military stuff on that line, which included Major Jackson, and then, as often happens, simply got interested and did some more research, partly as a training exercise for myself to understand Irish Genealogy. In fact, John Andrew Jackson isn't even particularly related to him, as he descends from a younger half-brother via Rapla.

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Re: John Andrew Jackson, murdered 1863, Mount Pleasant, Killowney Little
« Reply #12 on: Monday 20 August 18 16:50 BST (UK) »
... Yes, Sharon has done a lot of research on the Surname!
A heroic endeavour given that it's not exactly a rare name!


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Re: John Andrew Jackson, murdered 1863, Mount Pleasant, Killowney Little
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 21 August 18 12:59 BST (UK) »
family search

http://www.familysearch.org

probate 4.6.1863

Alicia Wilson (nee Smithwick) left under £5000

he married Alicia Smithwick in 1852

also take you to grave at Ballymackey

His father was Major George Jackson

not much about the death, you might have to ask the police.

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Re: John Andrew Jackson, murdered 1863, Mount Pleasant, Killowney Little
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 22 August 18 11:57 BST (UK) »
this article in the trove mention other men who might be involved

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/60547483

Peters, Cummins, Kennedy

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Re: John Andrew Jackson, murdered 1863, Mount Pleasant, Killowney Little
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 22 August 18 13:34 BST (UK) »
... Peters, Cummins, Kennedy

Yes, there seems to have been, as far as I remember from the newspaper accounts that I found, something close to a panic by the police and "Round up anyone who might possibly have been involved" seems to have been the instruction. As I said, even the steward who discovered the body was later arrested (?) and held for some time, while the domestics were all questioned. The newspaper noted that none of the ordinary people came to the funeral. Small wonder in view of the way that they were treated.

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Re: John Andrew Jackson, murdered 1863, Mount Pleasant, Killowney Little
« Reply #16 on: Monday 19 April 21 23:39 BST (UK) »
http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/estate-show.jsp?id=3464
reports that Mount Pleasant was advertised for sale in June 1870.

I wonder if that was when it was bought by the Ronaldson family.

Thos. Dowling Ronaldson of Mount Pleasant married Elizabeth Jane Scott of Ballyvillane in Ballymackey Church on 18 Aug 1891.  They were living in Killowney Little with their two daughters in 1901.

In 1906, the Cox family advertised another house named Mount Pleasant for sale, this one in the townland of Clarefield in County Clare.

By 1911, the Ronaldsons had moved from one Mount Pleasant to the other, possibly attracted by the name.

The Tipperary Mount Pleasant no longer stands (per landedestates.ie), but the Clare Mount Pleasant is still an imposing ruin, with magnificent views over Scattery Island and the Shannon Estuary.

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Re: John Andrew Jackson, murdered 1863, Mount Pleasant, Killowney Little
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 20 April 21 07:45 BST (UK) »
Thos. Dowling Ronaldson of Mount Pleasant married Elizabeth Jane Scott of Ballyvillane in Ballymackey Church on 18 Aug 1891.  They were living in Killowney Little with their two daughters in 1901.

Here's a link to the marriage...... 19th August 1891
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10677/5891477.pdf

1901 census
Residents of a house 3 in Killowney Little (Ballygibbon, Tipperary).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Ballygibbon/Killowney_Little/1700933/

https://www.townlands.ie/tipperary/upper-ormond/ballymackey/ballygibbon/killowney-little/


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