Jane HENDERSON, Enniskellin, Fermanagh

[aghadowey]

Just posting a link here for the photo-
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=762868.msg6143831#msg6143831

[hallmark]

Thanks for the Crozier  info. At first look it doesn't seem to fit  for dates and places. I'll go through it again though.

i know... it was just an example of what can be found on the site!

[wivenhoe]

"..Her brother Thomas, born 1841 was in Adelaide SA too. In papers he left in our city library  his son said he was an Ulster Scot  from Enniskillen."

Who left the papers in the library....Thomas, or his son?

Can you give some more detail about this please. Brother Thomas was in Adelaide.....did not live there?....was visiting?.......why are there papers in the library....what was his line of work......how have you identified him to be a brother to your Jane?

Who is the son (of Thomas, the brother of your Jane). Did this son live in SA?.

On the marriage certificate for Jane HENDERSON and Thomas WHITING....what church please, and who are the witnesses? 

[hallmark]

Research into a number of Irish families, containing abstracts of prerogative wills, genealogies, etc., made by H. A. Richey, 1900.
Format:    Manuscript
Subjects:    
Baird, family of
Breakey, family of
Brown, family of
Bullingbrook, family of
Clarke, family of
Crozier, family of
.........


Dublin: National Library of Ireland, Ms. 8316

[scotmum]

Two pages of Fermanagh based Jane Annie or Annie Jane females around their late teens/early 20s in 1911, just in case they are of help at some point.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j9k/

[Colleen Archbold]

Thomas, Jane's brother settled in Adelaide and married. Had 2 children. Wife died. Married again had more children.

Thomas wrote his family tree ( down from him, not back to ancestors) and  had his paperwork for the purchase and leases of land in Adelaide. His daughter added to those papers when he died and put them in the Adelaide library. I think there was a push at the time to do that to record SA's pioneers.

One of Thomas's sons was a politician  and involved with Mawson's expeditions. He was a colourful character , not much liked. He was the first misister for foreign affairs and spent much of his life overseas. So there is much info about him in historical files. He had no children. 

The other children of Jane's brother Thomas are recorded . Two had children and I've  traced them but not to living people. That's something I will do.

I have personal letters from  lady who confirmed Thomas's children but she has now died.

The marriage certificate of Jane to my g gf Thomas WHITING  shows them being married at the residence of Thomas's father as was the custom then for many people. I have the WHITING  genealogy  back many generations.

The witnesses to Jane and Thomas wedding were her brother Thomas and his brother  Richard. I've met a descendant of Richard and we've confirmed the genealogy .

[aghadowey]

I found a Jane Annie BRIEN in the area in the 1911 census living with her mother. Landlord is Thos CROZIER.

Jane Brien age 20 in 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Fermanagh/Rockfield_or_Killaclean/Drumsluice/521738
Drumsluice townland-
https://www.townlands.ie/fermanagh/lurg/derryvullan-and-islands/drumsluice/

Family in 1901- surname Breen (quite common in Fermanagh)
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Newparton/Drumcullion/1353224
Several townlands in Fermanagh called Drumcullion but based on 1911 location this one is most likely- both Drumcullion & Drumsluice are in Irvinestown Poor Law Union/Registration district- now called Irvinestown)-
https://www.townlands.ie/fermanagh/tirkennedy/magheracross/drumcullion/

Birth of Jane Breen gives mother as Catherine McCaffery-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02560/1946811.pdf

[aghadowey]

Next candidates-

Jane Ann Bell, age 13 in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Enniskillen_Rural/Drumclay/1364138
Birth gives mother as Mitchel-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02571/1950535.pdf

Jane Ann Lawder, 13 in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Aghyoule/Gortmullan/1357189
Sister Selina's birth gives mother as Luney-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02645/1975479.pdf

Jane Anne Coalter, 14 in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Newparton/Cooltrain/1353191
Birth for brother Henry gives mother as Elliott-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02760/2013680.pdf

[gaffy]

In your other ('Deciphering') topic you said 'I'm assuming this Jane Annie was her sibling's daughter.'
 
A reasonable primary assumption, but given the estimated birthyears involved, just putting out the secondary possibility that Jane Annie could have been addressing a Great Aunt.