Was she Sarah Jane Knight or Salter? Or both??

[bobbyhamster]

Thank you again.

I will keep you informed.

[trish1120]

Hi Rob,
I must commend you on all your research and the amount of Certs you have bought and am willing to buy.
(sometimes on here it hard to get people to buy 1 Cert!)

I agree with the likely scenarios posted re Sarah Jane by Jomot.
EDIT;
(I know Ambly noted James Baptism, but I missed that on my 1st reading of all of this, sorry)

Anyhow this will save you a few pounds!
Thats if you dont already have all of this.
 
MARRIAGE;
18 December 1845, St Nicholas, Lutton, Lincolnshire
Charles KNIGHT, Father JAMES Knight
Sarah SALTER, Father ROBERT Salter

BAPTISM;
14 March 1845, St Mary, Long Sutton
JAMES Salter, Mother SARAH Salter
(Buried 17 March 1845)

BAPTISM same Church
SARAH Salter, 21 May 1824, Parents ROBERT/LOUISA
Fathers Occp Labourer
On Baptisms of other Children, MARY ANN 1820/JAMES GOWLER 1821/HANNAH 1827/ELIZA 1830/ John 1833, the Mother is LEVINA/SAVINA or LAVINA
On later baptisms Robert is a Bricklayer

1851 Census Sarah Jane may be down as MARY JANE Salter age 7, living with her Grandparents Robert/Lavinia in Long Sutton.
No correcponding Birth Reg for a Mary Jane or Mary c 1844 on FreeBMD

The Ann Salter, Granddaughter age 7 is the Daug of JANE Salter, Baptised as Mary Anne 27 Nov 1843 St Mary.
1861 she is Ann, 1871 Mary Ann Salter.

All above on FreeREG

MARRIAGE;
28 July 1819, Chatteris, Cambridge, England
Robert SALTER   
Levina GOWLER, Father DOCKERILL Gowler
(F/S.Org)
FreeREG also has this Marriage;
By Licence with consent of Dockerill Gowler Father of the said Minor Levina Gowler Witness Thos Camps

Trish

[Ladyhawk]

Another Salter birth comes up as follows, this time Oct-Dec 1845:
KNIGHT  James     Holbeach  14 454
SALTER  James     Holbeach  14 454

For info. - Looks as if James died 1845

James SALTER age 0 birth year 1845
Burial  17/3/1845
St Mary Long Sutton Lincolnshire
Church denomination   ANGLICAN
from National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription

There a public tree on Anc*y unfortunately NO mention of Sarah Jane Salter-Bedford born 1844

Charles KNIGHT born c 1823 Lutton Lincolnshire
Married 18 Dec 1845 St Nicholas Church Lutton
Sarah SALTER born 21 May 1824 Long Sutton
parents Robert Salter 1792-1858 Levina Gowler 1798-1853
Children of Charles Knight & Sarah
Matilda 1847 married John WATSON 11 Oct 1872 Sutton bridge
source for their marriage England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1988
James 1849, Thomas 1851,Viney 1866
Child of Sarah Salter
James 1845-1845

Source Sarah & Charles' marriage England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Marriage 1845 Sutton-Bridge, Lincoln, England
Sarah Salter father Robert
Charles Knight father James

Source for Sarah's baptism England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Sarah Salter  Baptism 21 May 1824 Long Sutton, Lincoln, England
Father Robert Salter Mother   Lavina

[Ladyhawk]

Do you have access to census info. - here's the 1841 c

HO107;  St Mary Sutton; County: Lincolnshire; E D4; F13; P: 21
Prospect Place
SALTER
Robert 45 occ Bricklayer
Lousia (Lavinia) 40
Jane 15
SARAH 15
Caroline 10
Hannah 10
Eliza 10
John 5
Robert 5

1851 HO107; Piece: 2097; Folio: 282; Page: 1
9 Prospect Place
Robert 59, Lavinia 58, Hannah 22, Caroline 22 , John 16, Robert 14,
granddaughters Ann 7 & Mary Jane 7

Robert SALTER Burial 28 Feb 1858 St. Mary, Sutton, Lincolnshire
from England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991

[bobbyhamster]

Hi Trish,

Thank you very much for all of that detail.

I am trying to do it all properly. So the certificate back ups behind the research is key for me.

Would you think that the 1867 marriage of James FORMAN and Jane FORMAN, with Jane's father being Charles SALTER. Is her in question as well? Seems now with the goings on it could be a tribute to both Knight and Salter sides of the family.

Once I get the other certificates just ordered and it is Sarah Salter. I will move on with all that has been said. Hopefully a Dockerill will be easy to find... 

[bobbyhamster]

Hi Ladyhawk,

Thank you very much for that information.

I had just seen that in the 1841 census a few minutes ago.

You all seem to do this so fast. Brilliantly explained as well 

[trish1120]

When you have all the Certs let us know please.

As to the Gowlers it appears FreeREG may be a good source;
Eg;

County, Cambridgeshire
Place, Chatteris
Church, St. Peter   
Baptism Date   04 Feb 1798
Forename   Lavinah GOWLER
Sex   F
Father Forename Dockril
Mother Forename   Mary
Father Occupation Labourer
Notes Infant
5 Siblings, John 1788/Mary 1794/Mary 1796/Dockrill 1800/Ann 1804
Dockrill Jnr died 1801
There are so many spelling of Dockrills name on the records, he is a witness at a Marriage 1788 where he is Dockwray!

But this for later

Looks like Lavinah had a illeg Daug MARY who died 1818
Dockerill died 1833 age 73
Wife Mary 1807 age 46 (under Gowlar)

[bobbyhamster]

Hi All,

Just to let you know I have received the birth certificate of Sarah Jane SALTER.

Birth Date - 2nd of Jan 1844
Birth Location - Holbeach Union House
Registered Name - Sarah Jane SALTER
Fathers Name - Charles BEDFORD
Fathers Occupation - Labourer
Mothers name - Sarah SALTER no maiden name mentioned.


So what do you all think?

Edit: Could Charles Bedford be Mr Knight??

[Jomot]

Thanks for keeping us updated, and the mother being Sarah Salter is good news too.

I don't think that Charles Bedford & Charles Knight are the same people though, as Charles Knight was baptised 09 Mar 1823 at St Nicholas, Lutton the son of James Knight, Labourer, & Elizabeth.  There is a marriage at Lutton on 08 May 1811 between James Knight & Elizabeth Leefevre, which I assume to be the same couple.