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Families Burke,Whelan, and Hayes Marlfield Clonmel
« on: Sunday 15 January 17 23:59 GMT (UK) »
Newbie here, any guidance or help greatly apprecited :)

My Gmother was Margaret Whelan (nee Burke) she died in Co home Cashel, this is now St Patricks hospital. I have found that there is a record of her death registered there, but no information on where she was laid to rest???
On her death certificate it says Margaret Whelan from Clonmel, I have done on line searches for any cemeteries I know of, but just cant find anything. She died in 1942, so its not if though its that far back really.
On my Gparents marriage certificate, my Gmothers father is Peter Burke of Marlfield (obviously my GGfather). Also it shows on the marriage certificate is my Gfathers father Patrick Whelan, of Marlfield. My Gfather was his son Timothy Whelan.
Its strange how things happen I found a Burke family at house 29 Marlfield on the census, there were quite a few family members and they are obviously my relatives.
I am wondering if my GGfather was a groom at Marlfield House as thats what it says next to his name, and whether my other GGfather was a labourer there.
I cant find where my Gmother Margaret Whelan (nee Burke) was laid to rest, and as regards my Gfather Timothy Whelan, I dont know if he died in Ireland as he was a soldier in ww1 and then a mounted policeman in india, but Im thinking he must of come back to Clonmel at some stage or my mother and Gmother would not of been in Clonmel in 1942, when my Gmother died.
Sorry if this is hard to follow, i made a promise to my Mum, so I would like to ask if anyone has any information. My parents were Michael Hayes and Margaret Hayes (nee Whelan) my mum was from Clonmel and my Dad from Co Kilkenny. Its just not knowing which way to turn to find out anything.



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Re: Families Burke,Whelan, and Hayes Marlfield Clonmel
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 January 17 01:47 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat,
Just to help with searches I'm going to post links to some of the information you have posted.
Margaret Whelan died 1942, married, so her husband was still alive
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1942/04679/4247139.pdf

Timothy and Margarets marriage in 1919
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1919/09697/5517546.pdf



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Re: Families Burke,Whelan, and Hayes Marlfield Clonmel
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 January 17 14:09 GMT (UK) »
I can't see a grave for Margaret or Timothy, or a death for Timothy so possibly he died after 1966, looks like your best bet would be a death notice for one or both of them in a Newspaper.
You could try here https://www.irishnewsarchive.com/ but there are other websites which Mr.Google should be able to find.


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Re: Families Burke,Whelan, and Hayes Marlfield Clonmel
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 January 17 16:20 GMT (UK) »
Sinann,

Thank you for the links, like you say no sign for either of them. I will look into the irishnews link you kindly sent to me.
I did find the Burke Family house 29 Marlfield, that is my Gmother maiden name, she is on the list of persons living in that house with her parents and 5 brothers that was in 1901 she was 7, so it suggests to me that my Gparents actually met in Marlfield in later years.
Thank you so much  ;)


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Re: Families Burke,Whelan, and Hayes Marlfield Clonmel
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 January 17 18:42 GMT (UK) »
You only know from the marriage cert where Timothy was living at the time, 1919, his father could be anywhere.
Clonmel had a fairly big British Army base at the time.
Ideally if you could find Timothy's Army record, it would give you a better idea of his age and where he was from, may possible have family information as well.
Many military records were lost to fire during the Blitz of London in WWII.
I think Ancestry UK is the best for military records.

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Re: Families Burke,Whelan, and Hayes Marlfield Clonmel
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 January 17 19:51 GMT (UK) »
At the moment I think Margaret's parents are Peter Burke and Johanna Keating.
They didn't always live in Marlfield.
There is a Peter Burke born in Castlegrace (Clonheen District) 1890 father Herd
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02416/1900464.pdf
and a John  1898 Loughtally (Clonmel distict) father Herd
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02059/1787359.pdf

The children in between these two would need to be found to confirm.

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Re: Families Burke,Whelan, and Hayes Marlfield Clonmel
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Re: Families Burke,Whelan, and Hayes Marlfield Clonmel
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 January 17 21:07 GMT (UK) »
There is an marriage of Peter Burke and Johanna Keating in 1883, his father is David which would fit with calling their first born son David.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1883/10952/8003053.pdf

Peter is from Ballyboy and Johanna I believe the correct spelling is Tubbrid
The RC parish is Ballylooby
http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1094