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Help needed please! William Hawking in London, c1825 - 1868
« on: Tuesday 17 January 17 21:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I have been doing my research on and off for a few years, but have recently got back into it. I am, however, stuck on one of my primary research lines with a gentleman called William Hutchings Hawking. I've amassed the below records and am stuck connecting him with what I believe is his baptism in St Dominick, Cornwall. There are no census records I've found where I can get another recording of his birthplace either. The rarity of the name makes it likely that he's the same Hutching(s) born in Cornwall; indeed, his mother and father's (Elizabeth and Samuel) marriage shows his mother's maiden name as "Hitchins", and the change in spelling seems plausible. I also kind find his death, so can't get a birth certificate to check any other details. The other anomaly is the change in the occupation at certain points.

If anyone has any suggestions or thoughts, I'd be really grateful and interested to hear from you!

Tom

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Re: Help needed please! William Hawking in London, c1825 - 1868
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 January 17 21:32 GMT (UK) »
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I also kind find his death, so can't get a birth certificate to check any other details.

Do you mean you can't find a death registration for him?

What is the probate diary 1868?
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Help needed please! William Hawking in London, c1825 - 1868
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 January 17 21:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Milliepede,
Yes, I can't find him in the GRO (under Hawking/s and Hawkin/s), or in local parish records or other databases, such as the IGI.
Tom

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Re: Help needed please! William Hawking in London, c1825 - 1868
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 January 17 21:44 GMT (UK) »
Date of death 7 Nov 1868 but no I can't find an entry either  :-\
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos


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Re: Help needed please! William Hawking in London, c1825 - 1868
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 January 17 21:47 GMT (UK) »
How old should he be in 1868?


Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Help needed please! William Hawking in London, c1825 - 1868
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 January 17 21:48 GMT (UK) »
70, if he was baptised in the same year of his death.

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Re: Help needed please! William Hawking in London, c1825 - 1868
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 January 17 21:50 GMT (UK) »
Ah in that case then how about this one which is in the right district and right age

Dec 1868 Holborn
William Hawkins 70
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
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Re: Help needed please! William Hawking in London, c1825 - 1868
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 January 17 22:12 GMT (UK) »
There's 2 entries for him on the opc baptism records for the parish

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jaz/

now to decide which one.

Good luck

M

Note: the variations in spelling used have you found these with any other of the family?
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Re: Help needed please! William Hawking in London, c1825 - 1868
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 06:04 GMT (UK) »
Milliepede - thanks for the death entry; I might have to bite the bullet and order that!

Mair - well that's put a spanner in the works, but good to know! In answer to your question, there's an Elizabeth Hitchins Hawking, but the rest, bar the two Williams, bear no middle name: http://bit.ly/2iNNkx3. I also kind find a burial in St Dominick for the first William, so perhaps he didn't die in childhood, which was my first thought. Also, the second William seems to have a fairly consistent spelling of the "Hutchings", with the "s" at the end being the only change, except for his baptism in the name of "Hutchins". On his second marriage entry, his father is listed as Samuel Hawking, which fits with the gentleman in St Dominick because Samuel's occupation is given as "Hosier", and he was a "Taylor" in his will, dying not long after William's birth (although William's marriage entry does not say that Samuel is deceased).

To corroborate things, as you can see in the table, I contacted the Charterhouse School, as he died at the Charterhouse and was a schoolmaster, so I thought he might have taught there. He didn't, but he was a "poor brother", so I have two more consistent entries of his name and something to corroborate the 1868 death. I have written off to the actual Charterhouse almshouse, still in London, to see if they have more detailed records than the school kept, as the school moved just after William's death.

I suppose I won't get any further without something from the Charterhouse or the death certificate now.