James Forshaw

[eileendavid]

Thank you all I don't know what I would do without this site.  John Forshaw 1846 with father Robert born in Liverpool could only find the one and that was Robert the Blacksmith couldn't find any others.  I was OK with that until the marriage said he was a farmer?  The 1871 census for Mary Potter is great.
This is the marriage I thought this was the correct one as John Forshaw's parents as John named his daughter Elizabeth Evans Forshaw.  I have also found an Elizabeth Evans father John baptised St Peter’s Liverpool 10.09.1821 so when they got married she  was still a minor until September 1841

Here again I have conflicting evidence as John Evans shoemaker on her baptism he's a comb maker and on her brother Edward's he's a labourer?

Thanks again for all your help

Eileen



Marriage: 18.04.1841 St Peter’s Liverpool Lancs
Robert Forshaw – (X) Full Blacksmith Bachelor, Milton Street
Elizabeth Evans – (X) Minor Spinster Milton Street
Groom’s Father: James Forshaw Blacksmith
Bride’s Father John Evans Shoemaker
Witness John Evans; Elizabeth Jones (X)
Married by Banns by Thomas Halton M A Curate

[heatherjulie]

A bit more info
1895 Kellys Directory
Forshaw John Marble polisher
62 Lord Nelson Street
Cross Lane, S

[Ladyhawk]

John named his daughter Elizabeth Evans Forshaw. 

Did his daughter Elizabeth Evans Forshaw marry Charles Daniels 1896 Salford?

Do you have this marriage certificate confirming her father's details?

[eileendavid]

Hello

Yes Elizabeth Evans Forshaw did marry Charles Daniels but I don't have her marriage certificate. She was my granddad's sister.  I haven't got her marriage certificate but my mum told me about her as she became her dad's housekeeper after 1911. I also have all the details of my grandfather John Forshaw's other brothers and sisters.

Joseph Forshaw who was the youngest is the one who is living with their father John Forshaw before he emigrated to Canada on the 1911 census.  This is my grandfathers marriage from Lan OPC

Marriage: 7 Jun 1905 Christ Church, Salford, Lancashire, England
John Forshaw - 23 Driller Bachelor of 53 Lytham Street
Clara Frazer - 28 Widow of Rumford Street
    Groom's Father: John Forshaw, Marble Polisher
    Bride's Father: Joseph Murphy, Joiner
    Witness: Joseph Forshaw; Mary Ann Bolton
    Married by Banns by: George J. Howson
    Register: Marriages 1903 - 1906, Page 112, Entry 223
    Source: LDS Film 1786370

Eileen

[eileendavid]

Well I have just got back to this thread and thank you all for your help in the past.  I have Robert Forshaw as being born in Liverpool and this is definitely my Robert.

Baptism: 6 Jun 1819 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancs.
Robert Forshaw - S of James Forshaw & Elisabeth
Abode: Gt Crosshall St
Occupation: Blacksmith
Baptised by: T. Kidd Curate
Register: Baptisms 1819 - 1820, Page 40, Entry 318
Source: LDS film 165637

He did die young 28 and is buried at St John's Haymarket Liverpool following dying in the WH and all the other information adds up.

Could these be Robert's siblings and Robert was a late after thought baby?

Baptism: 14 Mar 1799 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Jane Forshaw - son [sic] of James Forshaw & Elizabeth (formerly Mackereth), His Wife
Born: 11 Jan 1799
Abode: Cropper Street
Occupation: Cooper
Seniority of birth in family: 3
Parents' Marriage: St. Anns
Register: Baptisms 1799, Page 83, Entry 244
Source: LDS Film 93833

Baptism: 21 May 1797 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancs.
James Forshaw - Son of James Forshaw & Elizabeth
 Born: 15 Feb 1797
 Abode: Cropper St
Occupation: Cooper
Register: Baptisms 1793 - 1799, Page 66, Entry 29
Source: LDS Film 1656377

Baptism: 4 Oct 1795 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancs.
Edward Forshaw - Son of James Tobias Forshaw & Elizabeth
Born: 8 Jun 1795
Abode: Tarleton St
Occupation: Cooper
Register: Baptisms 1793 - 1799, Page 43, Entry 34
Source: LDS Film 1656377

All addresses are in the same vicinity.  Could it be that James Forshaw made the hoops (blacksmith) for the barrel's so occupation could also be a cooper?

There was a James Forshaw that died and is buried at St John's Haymarket blacksmith aged 46 at Lower Myrtle Street Liverpool in 1835 So birth date approx 1789 but if this is mine I haven't found a marriage to an Elizabeth Could this be Robert's brother James and not his father?

I did find one that fit the bill for this James with Richard and Mary as parents (this is the one that seems to be popular on ancestry)  but on going through all the records found that they actually named two sons James and both died in infancy.

However James Forshaw marriage to Elisabeth is also evading me?

There was a James Forshaw married and Elizabeth Mackerath 16.03.1789 at St Anne's Church Liverpool. (according to the LDS) but not on the Lan opc.   Lanc OPC have just come back to me said it had been missed off and sent me the transcript 1789 March 16 James Forshaw of Liverpool, Cooper married Elizabeth Mackereth of Liverpool Spinster by Banns. Minister was Rd. Formby and witnesses William Tatlock and Sarah Bolton.

 One of the births recorded James had the name Tobias Forshaw but I can't find a marriage only the one for just James to Elizabeth.

If I don't get a break on this soon I will be bald any of you lovely people help me untangle the Forshaw's.

Eileen 

 

[eileendavid]

Hello

Just playing catch up.

On the James Forshaw the one that everyman and his dog has on Ancestry baptised at St John's Haymarket Liverpool son of Richard and Mary Coppull (widow) nee Lyon's 1789 died in 1791 and is buried at St Peter's Liverpool. The couple had 9 children the last another James who was born and died 1795

I have found an illegitimate James Forshaw 1790 couldn't find an infantile death. Mother Elin Forshaw

Baptism: 24 Oct 1790 St Mary, Walton on the Hill, Lancs.
James Forshaw - illegitimate son of Ellin Forshaw
    Born: 6 Oct
    Register: Baptisms 1767 - 1812, Page 36, Entry 10
    Source: LDS film 1647559

I have the transcript from the register.

How would an illegitimate son get an apprenticeship as a blacksmith?  Could Ellin someway be related to Richard Forshaw the Blacksmith so many unanswereed questions

[eileendavid]

Hello All

Got another query on James Forshaw with regards to his birthdate on the Parish Register of Walton on the Hill which recorded 06.10.1790 and illegitimate son of Ellin Forshaw.

I have found a burial at St Johns Old Haymarket of an Ellin Forshaw on the 03.10.1790 workhouse?  Seems a bit coincidental.  Could his date of birth been guessed.  There were quite a lot of illegitimate births at Walton on the Hill but burials for the workhouse seem to be at St Johns

Anyone can you help or give me your opinions

Eileen