Counselletta Smith

[Irene B]

I am looking for information about Counselletta Smith who married Henry James in Croydon, Surrey in 1915.  Henry was a widower by 1939.  I can't find any birth or baptism record for Counselletta (I have checked spelling variations) and I am not sure where to look next.  Henry was born in 1890 according to 1939 National Register, and on his WW1 papers he was 24 when he enlisted in 1916, so I assume she was roughly the same age.


There are other Counsellette, Counciletti etc Smiths born in different periods, but I have no idea how -or if - they are connected.

[JJen]

Do you have Counselletta/Henry's marriage cert? If not then that hopefully would give you  Counselletta's father's name and occupation.

JJ

[Irene B]

Marriage cert is in the post, hasn't arrived yet.  I am puzzled because there is nothing in the birth index that seems to match.

[JJen]

Perhaps she was recorded under a different christian name but the family preferred to call her Counselletta. Just a shame her surname is Smith  Can't see a death for her............

Hopefully the marriage cert will help, please let us know how you get on. 

JJ

[rosie99]

What were the names and years of birth of their children if any.  Was Henry living alone in 1939 

[rosie99]

Would this fit 

Death June qtr 1933 
Cansalelte James    age 39   
Greenwich    1d   833   

[Irene B]

Thank you for spotting her death!

Marriage cert still hasn't arrived, but the children I know of are:
Oceon born 1912, Charles 1914, Henry 1917 (all listed on their fathers Army papers), from 1939 Register I have Mary Ann 1920, Violet 1922, Henrietta 1927, Alfred 1924  and the family story is that Consoletta died after giving birth to Patsy Rose who also died.

[rosie99]

If only 'travellers'  registered their births   

[smileyface471686]

my great grandmother was born Conceletta Scarrott in 1863 but she also went under the name of Smith which was her mothers maiden name and Brinkley her husbands name. Her daughter, my grandmother was also called Ocean born 1882 likeone of your Counseys children. Gt granny Counseys name was also spelt Counseyletty, counseyhetty, counsey.....