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Goldsmith, Samuel Thomas
« on: Sunday 05 February 17 13:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone,

I've just started researching my family tree for my mums side of the family anyway my great grandfather Percival John Goldsmith's parents were Samuel Thomas Goldsmith b.Bungaree Vic 1872 d. Ballarat Vic 1936 and Eveline/Evelyn Roberta Goldsmith (nee Wilkie) b. Skip Vic 1879 d. Balliang Vic 1935 and I'm looking for any info on Percival (I can't find any) I have managed to trace my family back to James Goldsmith b. Brighton Sussex circa 1801 d. Brighton Sussex 1847, I know he was a whitesmith/tinsmith but I can't seem to find any info past this.

Could anyone please help me

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Re: Goldsmith, Samuel Thomas
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 05 February 17 23:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Emz86,

A warm welcome to Rootschat!  ;D

Your topic title is : Goldsmith, Samuel Thomas

But the message just asks for any info on a) his son Percival John GOLDSMITH
and b) info on his ancestor, James. So if we can clarify a little further :

What info DO you have on Percival? What are you looking for now?
Do you already have any of this, follows, readily available on line:
http://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/home/family+history/search+your+family+history/

BIRTH Registered 1899:
Percoval Jno GOLDSMITH
Born: Ballarat East
Father: Saml GOLDSMITH
Mother: Evelyn , ms WILKIE
Reg: 7790

MARRIAGE Registered 1919:
Percival Jno GOLDSMITH
Gladys Beatrice MAGOR
Reg: 4047

DEATH Registered 1980:
Percival John GOLDSMITH
Died Footscray, age 80
Father:  Samuel Thoma(s)
Mother: Eveline Rober(ta)
Reg: 04153

DEATH 1943, of wife Gladys
Gladys Beatrice GOLDSMITH
Died: Footscray , age 43
Born : Melbourne North
Father:  John MAGOR
Mother: Agnes BEARD
Reg: 12283

On the Electoral Rolls, Percival's occupation is Moulder, Iron Moulder, Brass Moulder.

By 1949, he  appears to have a second wife, Emma Christina. She preceded him in death, in 1979.

DEATH Registered 1979:
Emma Christina M GOLDSMITH
Died Footscray, age 82
Father:  John SUTTON
Mother: Anna Maria EXNER
Reg 503

BIRTH registered 1895:
Emma Ctina Martha SUTTON
Born: OLeigh
Father: Jno SUTTON
Mother: Morea Emma , ms EXNER
Reg:  31751

For the Brighton ancestor James,
Have you got him in the 1841 Census - can you post the details and the references?  Is he Samuel's father?

Cheers
AMBLY
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Re: Goldsmith, Samuel Thomas
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 05 February 17 23:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome from me too

Is this the right 1841 entry?   Brighthelmstone Sussex and all born Sussex

James Goldsmith    40 whitesmith
Abigail  40
James     17
Frances  14
HO107 Piece 1123/4 Folio 19 Page 1
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Re: Goldsmith, Samuel Thomas
« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 February 17 00:13 GMT (UK) »
James Goldsmith and Abigail Saunders married 16.11.1823 at St Nicholas in Brighton as per Family search
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Re: Goldsmith, Samuel Thomas
« Reply #4 on: Monday 06 February 17 08:10 GMT (UK) »
Percival mentioned, column 3: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article87345631

Death notice for wife Gladys column 1 and funeral notice column 4: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article206345322

Funeral notice for Samuel's daughter Theodocia, 4th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article75152193

Samuel, column 7: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article205945004

More than one Samuel Thomas in Ballarat? 5th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article213852068
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 February 17 08:44 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Goldsmith, Samuel Thomas
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 February 17 13:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone, sorry to be a pain but not long after posting this I found all the info that I was after

Thanks to you all for replying

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Re: Goldsmith, Samuel Thomas
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 February 17 10:10 GMT (UK) »
 ;D
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Re: Goldsmith, Samuel Thomas
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 March 17 11:13 GMT (UK) »
Hello emnz86, l have also just started researching my father's ancestors, first post and saw your asking for information on percival goldsmith, who is my grandfather, saw the post under yours which gives me lots of interesting information to work with, my interest is how many children did percival have, and we're the children from the first wife or both, never met my paternal grandmother only emma the stepmother, so would info on aunts and uncles, my father is alan roy goldsmith, percival son thankyou