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Family of reverend smyth/smith whitelaw fox
« on: Monday 13 February 17 20:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi I'm tracing back the fox family and have got to reverend Smyth/smith whitelaw fox who married hariot nesbitt in c1824.
I can only find reference to Smyth's parents on wikipedia (as Peter fox and Abigail maddock) but there are no records to substantiate this and then nothing beyond Peter fox. Does anyone have any ancestory information on the parents of Smyth whitelaw fox and beyond?

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Re: Family of reverend smyth/smith whitelaw fox
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 February 17 20:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi Louisecfox,

Is this the wikipedia article to which you refer? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilteel

Have also found the below info on page 3 of a document here: http://www.mageoughchapel.dublin.anglican.org/Ch%201%20Miss%20Elizabeth%20Mageough.pdf

".. Before Miss Mageough the house was owned by the Revd. Smith Whitelaw Fox who was the Perpetual Curate (to the Rector of St. Peter's in Aungier Street) of Rathmines parish from the opening of the church on the 1st of June 1828 to 1851. There is no indication in Leslie's list of where he served after he left TCD in 1824. He was born in Dublin in 1799 and was a descendant of the Fox family who held land at Kilteel and Cupidstown in Co. Wicklow as part of a Quaker settlement in the area. Mr Fox inherited these estates and when he became the 'chaplain to Trinity Church, Rathmines', newly built in 1828 as a “Chapel-of ease” within St. Peter's Parish, he either bought or had built this elegant well proportioned but not over large house at Richview. He lived in some style as the RDS members website indicates:Smith Whitelaw Fox was chaplain of Trinity church, Rathmines, and joint grand chaplain to the Most Ancient and Honourable Society of Free and Accepted Masons in Ireland. He resided at Richview, Milltown, and was elected a life member of the R.D.S. on 17 December 1835, his proposers being John Hughes, and Dr T. H. Orpen. Reverend S. W. Fox was a member of the natural history committee 1837-41, and of the natural philosophy committee 1838-41. He appears to have moved to England at the end of the 1840s, as his address was recorded as Grange Mount, Birkenhead, when he donated a spotted rail to the R.D.S. museum on 8 Sept. 1851. He returned to Ireland in the late 1850s, and his address was recorded as Valclusa, Enniskerry (1858-67). He resumed active membership of the R.D.S. and proposed for membership Daniel O'Brien, Smithfield(1858), Major Richard Pepper, Blackrock (1862), and Dr John Bagwell Creagh, Kingstown (1863). Reverend S. W. Fox was deleted from the R.D.S. membership list in 1868. "

The above suggests that the Rev. Smyth/Smith Whitelaw Fox was born in 1799 in Dublin.

Apologies if you already have this info.

Hope this helps.

Kind regards

David
Aitcheson, Aldred, Batty, Bauer, Bone, Brewer, Dean, Doyle, Durant, Fife, Finney, Gibson, Graham/Grayham, Hall, Harrison, Hersey, Hill, Holliss, Hudson, Hussey, Insley, Kelsey, King, Laver, Longmore, Luke, Mellor, Newman, North, Parker, Phillips, Porter, Read, Robinson, Rowel, Spink, Sproxton, Steer, Stevenson, Tanner, Witty/Whitty, Warburton, Wood.
(For more information on the above surnames please check the Surname Interest Table below.)

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Re: Family of reverend smyth/smith whitelaw fox
« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 February 17 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Louisecfox,

There are three children's baptisms to Smyth Whitelaw Fox & a Harriet/Harriot on IrishGenealogy.ie as follows:

Harriet Fox of Rathmines, to Smyth Whitelaw Fox & Harriet born on 20th May 1831 & baptised 22nd July 1831.

Isabella Victoria Fox of Rathmines, to Smyth Whitelaw Fox & Harriet born on 10th September 1837 & baptised  20th October 1837.

William Smyth Fox of Richview, to Smyth Whitelaw Fox & Harriot born on 6th February 1839 & baptised 1st August 1839.

All baptisms took place at St Peter's Church, Dublin.

Apologies again if you already have these.

Hope this helps.

Kind regards

David
Aitcheson, Aldred, Batty, Bauer, Bone, Brewer, Dean, Doyle, Durant, Fife, Finney, Gibson, Graham/Grayham, Hall, Harrison, Hersey, Hill, Holliss, Hudson, Hussey, Insley, Kelsey, King, Laver, Longmore, Luke, Mellor, Newman, North, Parker, Phillips, Porter, Read, Robinson, Rowel, Spink, Sproxton, Steer, Stevenson, Tanner, Witty/Whitty, Warburton, Wood.
(For more information on the above surnames please check the Surname Interest Table below.)

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Re: Family of reverend smyth/smith whitelaw fox
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 February 17 21:01 GMT (UK) »
Thanks that's great. I had the articles but not the children's names. Do you have any tips on how to find out who Smyth's or Hariot's parents were?


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Re: Family of reverend smyth/smith whitelaw fox
« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 February 17 21:33 GMT (UK) »
A Peter Fox married Abigail Maddock in 1779
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jhi/

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Re: Family of reverend smyth/smith whitelaw fox
« Reply #5 on: Monday 13 February 17 21:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi Louisecfox,

Reverend Smyth Whitelaw Fox was still at Rich View, Rathmines in 1846. Link here: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jhf/ to Slaters National Commercial Directory of Ireland. He is on page 33, towards the bottom of left hand column.

Also a reference to him having been elected a member of the Irish Archeological Society. A meeting took place on 27th June 1843 and includes a list of names of people elected members of the Society since the last annual meeting. The names include one 'Rev. Smyth W. Fox, Richview, Rathmines'. He is top of left hand column on page 3. Link here: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jhh/

Marriages of 3 children of Smyth Whitelaw Fox on familysearch here:

Peter Fox to Elizabeth Alice Stokes on 22nd June 1848. Link here: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG69-ZNQ

William Smyth Fox to Sarah Edith Reid on 25th September 1865 at Monkstown, Dublin. Link here: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGDD-T4V

Mary Abigail Fox to Robert Usher on 8th December 1864 at St Peters Church, Dublin on first link. However the second link has a marriage date of 14th April 1864 in Dublin. Links here: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG8T-QBG & here: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGZQ-98Q

As to tips, I'm relatively new to Irish genealogy myself. Sorry I can't be of more help on the tips & advice side of things. However, I hope that the above info helps.

Kind regards

David
Aitcheson, Aldred, Batty, Bauer, Bone, Brewer, Dean, Doyle, Durant, Fife, Finney, Gibson, Graham/Grayham, Hall, Harrison, Hersey, Hill, Holliss, Hudson, Hussey, Insley, Kelsey, King, Laver, Longmore, Luke, Mellor, Newman, North, Parker, Phillips, Porter, Read, Robinson, Rowel, Spink, Sproxton, Steer, Stevenson, Tanner, Witty/Whitty, Warburton, Wood.
(For more information on the above surnames please check the Surname Interest Table below.)

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Re: Family of reverend smyth/smith whitelaw fox
« Reply #6 on: Monday 13 February 17 21:59 GMT (UK) »
This looks like his marriage but no parents names
im guessing the Richard is a transcription error for Reverend
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Re: Family of reverend smyth/smith whitelaw fox
« Reply #7 on: Monday 13 February 17 22:07 GMT (UK) »
Harriet's father is vicar but there is no occupation for Smyth's father which probably means he was deceased by than.

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Re: Family of reverend smyth/smith whitelaw fox
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 14 February 17 09:39 GMT (UK) »
They may have lived in Lucan ,Co Dublin by 1864 plus another son Allan Nesbitt Fox born 1835
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