Author Topic: John Pope Birth 17 SEP 1739 Winkleigh Devon Elizbeth Skinner B Eggesford  (Read 1062 times)

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John Pope Birth 17 SEP 1739 Winkleigh Devon Elizbeth Skinner B Eggesford
« on: Monday 20 February 17 18:25 GMT (UK) »
Looking for added info on John Pope Birth 17 SEP 1739 Winkleigh Devon and Elizbeth Skinner B Eggesford, Devon

I believe they are my 3rd great grandparents.  I have a marriage 17 Jul 1774 in Eggesford and have copies of a Bann and a marriage document.  The officiant was from Morchard Bishop and witnesses were George Davey and  William Soull ( unsure about his last name).  Seems I am unable to attach the copies

I have no parents for Elizabeth.  I believe John Pope's parents were William Pope and Joan Lake but this is anecdotal.

I believe there were the following children


Joan Pope 1774?  Possibly married a Thomas Rogers
    Baptized August 27, 1774 Coldridge, Devon

Mary Pope 1775
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 Baptized  25 Jul 1775 Brushford

Samuel Pope 17781849
     Baptized   25 Oct 1778 Brushford

Married a Joanna Hooper 30 Mar 1815 Winkleigh Devon


William Pope 17811800
    Baptized 17 Jun 1781 Brushford
Possible burial 24 Feb 1800 Brushford

Thomas Pope 17841847
   
Baptized 11 Jan 1784 Brushford
Married Grace Handcock 2 Aug 1808 Coldridge, Devon
Passed at Moor End, Devon

Elizabeth Pope 1787
   Baptism 15 Jul 1787 Brushford
Married  Richard Baker 15 Nov 1815 witness Thomas Pope and Elias From(?)  in Brushford.  I have an image of the registration


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Re: John Pope Birth 17 SEP 1739 Winkleigh Devon Elizbeth Skinner B Eggesford
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 February 17 18:45 GMT (UK) »
John Pope was baptised 17 September 1739 in Winkleigh, parents William and Joan

William Pope and Joan Lake married 15 April 1733 in Winkleigh.

I can't find an Eggsford baptism for Elizabeth

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Re: John Pope Birth 17 SEP 1739 Winkleigh Devon Elizbeth Skinner B Eggesford
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 January 18 15:50 GMT (UK) »
The Eggesford connection is from a marriage Bann.

The marriage was witnessed by a  George Davey, possibly the local bishop.  However, I am not finding anything to confirm that definitively.

The other witness was  a William South.

An interesting thing just noticed while reviewing the Bann was the next one was for a Richard Pope of Brushford and a Charity Packer of Coldridge.  Unable to find Richard in my tree so perhaps a missing link or confirmation of a different Pope family in that area
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Re: John Pope Birth 17 SEP 1739 Winkleigh Devon Elizbeth Skinner B Eggesford
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 31 January 18 11:50 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth (Skinner) POPE was buried at Brushford in 1827 aged 83 so born ca 1744. Interestingly, an Elizabeth POPE was baptised at Eggesford 14 Sep 1743, dau of Andrew & Elizabeth - however, she appears to have married in 1770.
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Re: John Pope Birth 17 SEP 1739 Winkleigh Devon Elizbeth Skinner B Eggesford
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 31 January 18 16:25 GMT (UK) »
Interesting added info on Elizabeth Skinner and the "new" Elizabeth baptized 14 Sep 1743.  Found a possible hint that mother Elizabeth was an Elizabeth Bird but no documents to support.  Nothing more on an Andrew Pope at this point
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Re: John Pope Birth 17 SEP 1739 Winkleigh Devon Elizbeth Skinner B Eggesford
« Reply #5 on: Monday 04 November 19 15:56 GMT (UK) »
Is it possible that Elizabeth Skinner married before her marriage to John Pope?

Given her birth calculated from age at death she was around 30 when she married John.  Would that be rather late to marry?

Would the Banns or marriage note a previous marriage?

Dunbar, Clark,Bain, Lipp, Campbell, Pope, Barnard, Handcock, McAdams,Creath