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Sarah Masterson
« on: Monday 27 February 17 11:50 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for more info on Sara(h) Masterson is my maternal Grandmother, she died in 9Th September 1965, Ballybrack, Dublin.

I am uncertain of her birth date, but reckon it must be 1890's to 1900's

She was married to Lancelot Allen, they had Benjamin (Benny), Eileen, Lancelot, Catherine (Peggy), Jimmy, Sarah (Sheila) and Elizabeth (Betty, my mum).

There is some story about her dad being in the British Army serving in Malta, either for her birth or for her early years.

As far as i can tell She does not appear on the Irish 1901 or 1911 census.
I cannot find a birth record in Ireland for her.

Lancelot Allen married Sarah Masterson in 26 Dec 1917 in the Church of St Andrew, South Dublin.

I would be delighted with any help finding her in UK births/Army births (Malta?)

John

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Re: Sarah Masterson
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 February 17 11:56 GMT (UK) »
Does her marriage name her father and give his occupation
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Re: Sarah Masterson
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 February 17 12:05 GMT (UK) »
The marriage certificate is available here:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1917/09761/5543042.pdf

It gives her father as James Masterson deceased and his as Archibald Allen , also deceased.
Marriage 26 Nov 1917 st Andrews Dublin.
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Re: Sarah Masterson
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 February 17 13:06 GMT (UK) »
This man looks a good possibility:

James Masterson, attested Royal Dublin Fusiliers 1 Jan 1887, aged 18 yrs 6 months.

Certificate of Education: 4th Class.

Occupation: Labourer.

Born: Tullow, Co. Carlow.

Father: Michael Masterson, of Castlemore, Co. Carlow.

Sisters: Margaret, Mary Anne, Julia, Bridget.

Married: Mary Brennan at Suncroft, Co. Kildare, 6 Aug 1887 1889

Served:

01.01.87-08.11.99: Home
09.11.99-22.09.00: S. Africa
23.09.00-17.11.02: Home
18.11.02-08.08.03: Malta
09.08.03-03.11.03: Home

Discharged medically unfit at Netley, 3 November 1908.  Rank: Private.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Sarah Masterson
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 February 17 13:11 GMT (UK) »
Had a look at British National Armed Forces Births & British Nationals born Overseas on findmypast, but Sarah's not listed. It's not comprehensive though,not all chaplains made the returns (as I know to my cost  ;)).

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Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Sarah Masterson
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 February 17 13:21 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: avm228 on Monday 27 February 17 13:06 GMT (UK)
Discharged medically unfit at Netley, 3 November 1908.  Rank: Private.
Is this in England? Perhaps a place for you to look in 1911? As you know we can't do England/Wales 1911 lookups for you but there is a free index.

Do you not have a more accurate indication of her age from the death certificate? From Christine's marriage entry find, she is of full age in 1917 - so born before 1896.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Sarah Masterson
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 February 17 13:27 GMT (UK) »
Josey,

No exact age but, like you, I surmised that she was mid 20's when she started having children (in the 1920's) making her mid to early 1890's

Still cant find where she was born though

Many thanks

John

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Re: Sarah Masterson
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 February 17 13:37 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Sarah Masterson
« Reply #8 on: Monday 27 February 17 13:40 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: avm228 on Monday 27 February 17 13:06 GMT (UK)
Married: Mary Brennan at Suncroft, Co. Kildare, 6 Aug 1887.
So if this is the marriage, Sarah probably born late 1887 - 1888. She may have lied about being of full age in 1917.

Gosh, that hospital was huge!!
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON
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