This is a long and involved query, I know what is meant, just hope you can follow my train of thought.
Frederick George RIDLER born 1875- 22 Nov 1939, married in 1898 Sarah Esther HOOKER had a son Frederick William Thomas born 1899.They were divorced, Decree Nisi 8 Dec 1906. Sarah died 5 Apr 1933, but can’t find her birth, (could be anywhere), or death on NZBDM. Have 2 probates as Sarah RIDLER 1933 and as Sarah Esther RIDLER aka Sarah HOOKER 1951, after a POSB account was found in her maiden name.
Frederick married in 1917 Mary Ann BROOKER. C1868 (no birth found)-27 Dec 1952.
Children on NZBDM all registered under 1917 births but born before then as follows 1917/22730 Vera Olive born 28 Dec 1908, 1917/22731 Winnie May born 5 Sept 1911, 1917/22732 Albert Eric Phipps born 17 Jul 1913 , 1917/29942 Douglas Allen Phipps born 13 Jul 1915. All have Father=Frederick George, Mother=Mary Ann.
Another two RIDLER children are buried with Frederick & Mary Ann in a family grave at Karori cemetery. Stanley George died 31 Mar 1907 age 9 months, (have found no birth or death on NZBDM as yet) and Alfreda Margaret died 25 Jul 1919 age 9 months. (Death on NZBDM but no birth, not 100 years ago?)
WCC cemetery database also has a burial “Baby RIDLER 0 years 13/08/1910” but no 1907 for Stanley George.
Mary Ann also had a son Cecil John Alexander RIDLER, known as Jack, born c1900 from death notice 12 Oct 1945 Evening Post in 45th year. He was a Miner in Shipton’s Flat, Queensland on 1937 & 1943 E/R (spelt Alexanda) and enlisted at Cairns in Aust Army Service Corps as C. J. Alexanda RIDLER born 9 Oct 1905 Wellington NZ. He died as P.O.W Borneo 5 Mar 1945, buried Labuan Malayasia.
Any ideas or thoughts to solve the following queries would be much appreciated.
Why did Mary Ann & Frederick wait until 1917 to marry, were they living together and was Mary Ann married to someone else?
Why do the children have a 1917 register number, why not a number in their birth year. Would that mean that Frederick adopted them after the marriage?
Who was the father of C.J.A “Jack” ?
Maybe the Phipps as Christian name on the two boys is a clue to Mary Ann’s maiden or mother’s maiden name but hasn’t helped me as yet.
Cheers
HeatherR